Kimberly Adams

I'm joined today by Kai Rizdal.

Welcome back, Kai.

I've been good.

Missed you.

But there's a reason that you're here because not only did we both have like mutual brain explosions on Blue Skies, we were listening to the State of the Union, but also obviously on Friday, the Supreme Court.

struck down some of President Trump's tariffs, which has been a huge story that the both of us have been covering.

Since then, it's been chaos as people have been trying to figure this out.

So, of course, we had to bring you back to help make us smart about it and get through it all.

So welcome back.

Let's get into it.

We have been waiting on the SCOTUS ruling for months.

A lot of false alarms in terms of prepping the newsroom for it when it didn't drop.

What was your reaction when it finally came through?

I was surprised that the president didn't say more about it in the State of the Union.

So then in the decision itself, the justices' decisions, you said it was fractured, but what about it really jumped out to you?

So this is really interesting because this came up in our editorial meeting yesterday, this idea of all these costs that companies had to pay because of the tariffs that were not the tariffs themselves.

Like you talk to a customs broker all the time, right?

That person charges a fee for her services.

Yep.

That is probably much higher now that companies had to eat as they're navigating these tariffs.