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Kimberly Williams Crenshaw

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269 total appearances

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KimberlĂ© Williams Crenshaw’s path from ‘Backtalker’ to legal scholar

So I'm looking around the neighborhood, and I'm seeing this number of houses, and a lot of them don't have chimneys.

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KimberlĂ© Williams Crenshaw’s path from ‘Backtalker’ to legal scholar

So, you know, it started when I was really, really little.

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KimberlĂ© Williams Crenshaw’s path from ‘Backtalker’ to legal scholar

But as I grew older—

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KimberlĂ© Williams Crenshaw’s path from ‘Backtalker’ to legal scholar

the conversation would turn to a neighbor who was called Barefoot Annie.

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KimberlĂ© Williams Crenshaw’s path from ‘Backtalker’ to legal scholar

She was an Italian immigrant and was pretty much, I guess from her perspective, left behind as the neighborhood transitioned from an all-white neighborhood to a largely black one.

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KimberlĂ© Williams Crenshaw’s path from ‘Backtalker’ to legal scholar

And when we rode by on our bicycles, she would call us names.

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KimberlĂ© Williams Crenshaw’s path from ‘Backtalker’ to legal scholar

She would use the water hoses to spray us.

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KimberlĂ© Williams Crenshaw’s path from ‘Backtalker’ to legal scholar

And I would come home and report this and try to understand what had we done to her that made her so hostile to us.

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KimberlĂ© Williams Crenshaw’s path from ‘Backtalker’ to legal scholar

And these were the kind of ways that, as a child,

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KimberlĂ© Williams Crenshaw’s path from ‘Backtalker’ to legal scholar

I began to understand what and who I was seen to be by people like Barefoot Annie.

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KimberlĂ© Williams Crenshaw’s path from ‘Backtalker’ to legal scholar

And my parents would walk me through or ask me how I thought or how I felt about that.

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KimberlĂ© Williams Crenshaw’s path from ‘Backtalker’ to legal scholar

So it was coming to consciousness with active interrogation and conversation rather than sort of the silent immersion into the racial order that I was born into.

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KimberlĂ© Williams Crenshaw’s path from ‘Backtalker’ to legal scholar

Yes.

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KimberlĂ© Williams Crenshaw’s path from ‘Backtalker’ to legal scholar

And my father was a big man, a former football player, 6'2", gregarious, son of a minister.

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KimberlĂ© Williams Crenshaw’s path from ‘Backtalker’ to legal scholar

I called him the Martin to my mother's Malcolm.

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KimberlĂ© Williams Crenshaw’s path from ‘Backtalker’ to legal scholar

And when he picked up the phone and heard my grandfather tell him what had happened, I mean, he heaved.

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KimberlĂ© Williams Crenshaw’s path from ‘Backtalker’ to legal scholar

He bent forward.

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KimberlĂ© Williams Crenshaw’s path from ‘Backtalker’ to legal scholar

I had never seen him be emotional like that, him being hurt like that.

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KimberlĂ© Williams Crenshaw’s path from ‘Backtalker’ to legal scholar

it signified for me that there was a tragedy that had occurred, not just to him individually or us as a family, but to a bigger group of us.

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KimberlĂ© Williams Crenshaw’s path from ‘Backtalker’ to legal scholar

I call it the we throughout the book.