Kingy (Mark Williams)

And every step of the way, they just get whacked like this.

So I just felt for the rival podcast, the young ladies on that, we've just got to be better.

And we're in a phase now where next week we're going to have Carlton Respects round.

We've just got to be better.

So those guys –

and move on.

Those guys will get their whack, I'm sure.

Do you believe in the salary cap?

Do you believe the salary cap is real?

I've always had a... You've got your doubts.

Forever.

Forever, I've had my doubts.

I hear the discussion about the Zach Butters offers this week and the monumental offer that's on the table from Richmond, front-loaded to within an inch of its life.

How anyone could walk away from an offer like that would blow my mind, to be able to take a rival offer when they could be north of, they're saying north of $3.5, $4 million first year.

It was six or so weeks ago where he said- You reckon this idea, hang on, you're telling me they came up with it before Richmond did?

Well, yeah.

You knock that back for what?

Well, yeah, they're struggling at the minute, but you throw butters in there amongst the Ferraris.

And when you get them back on field, that would be a huge lift to this rebuild.

My gosh.