Kirk Goldsberry

And that was the only three-point shooting foul the Rockets got that whole season or that whole series. We won in six games. That's the game six where Harden famously didn't show up in Houston. We didn't have Kawhi. But that was a really great moment of watching how Pop looked at a stat And then devised the defense that nobody had really seen before or since.

And that was the only three-point shooting foul the Rockets got that whole season or that whole series. We won in six games. That's the game six where Harden famously didn't show up in Houston. We didn't have Kawhi. But that was a really great moment of watching how Pop looked at a stat And then devised the defense that nobody had really seen before or since.

Watching guys play defense like this, it was a remarkable thing. And I loved that. I loved seeing how he was able to implement that and win a series with that.

Watching guys play defense like this, it was a remarkable thing. And I loved that. I loved seeing how he was able to implement that and win a series with that.

Watching guys play defense like this, it was a remarkable thing. And I loved that. I loved seeing how he was able to implement that and win a series with that.

Yeah, I've had another quick one. So Pop is also more than basketball. And in one of our New York road trips, he took us, he came into the team bus. It was like, who wants to go to a play tomorrow? And nobody raised their hand. And I raised my hand. I was like, I'll go to a play. And so we go to this play, just me and him.

Yeah, I've had another quick one. So Pop is also more than basketball. And in one of our New York road trips, he took us, he came into the team bus. It was like, who wants to go to a play tomorrow? And nobody raised their hand. And I raised my hand. I was like, I'll go to a play. And so we go to this play, just me and him.

Yeah, I've had another quick one. So Pop is also more than basketball. And in one of our New York road trips, he took us, he came into the team bus. It was like, who wants to go to a play tomorrow? And nobody raised their hand. And I raised my hand. I was like, I'll go to a play. And so we go to this play, just me and him.

And it's Kate Blanchett and PFT, I'll know this, it's Anton Chekhov's The Present, Chekhov, the Russian playwright. And in the first act, like, I don't know anything about Chekhov, right, except for one thing. And the play is called The Present. And in the middle of the first act, the Cate Blanchett character opens a present that's a pistol. And I'm like, wait a second.

And it's Kate Blanchett and PFT, I'll know this, it's Anton Chekhov's The Present, Chekhov, the Russian playwright. And in the first act, like, I don't know anything about Chekhov, right, except for one thing. And the play is called The Present. And in the middle of the first act, the Cate Blanchett character opens a present that's a pistol. And I'm like, wait a second.

And it's Kate Blanchett and PFT, I'll know this, it's Anton Chekhov's The Present, Chekhov, the Russian playwright. And in the first act, like, I don't know anything about Chekhov, right, except for one thing. And the play is called The Present. And in the middle of the first act, the Cate Blanchett character opens a present that's a pistol. And I'm like, wait a second.

I've listened to enough prestige TV podcasts to know. And I was like, Pop, we had intermission. I was like, dude, I think this is Chekhov's gun. I think this is where this came from. I don't want to spoil anything for you, Pop, but I think we're going to see this gun again in the third act. And sure enough, it happened. And he had never heard of Chekhov's gun. But that's a great example.

I've listened to enough prestige TV podcasts to know. And I was like, Pop, we had intermission. I was like, dude, I think this is Chekhov's gun. I think this is where this came from. I don't want to spoil anything for you, Pop, but I think we're going to see this gun again in the third act. And sure enough, it happened. And he had never heard of Chekhov's gun. But that's a great example.

I've listened to enough prestige TV podcasts to know. And I was like, Pop, we had intermission. I was like, dude, I think this is Chekhov's gun. I think this is where this came from. I don't want to spoil anything for you, Pop, but I think we're going to see this gun again in the third act. And sure enough, it happened. And he had never heard of Chekhov's gun. But that's a great example.

Pop loved Russian. He loves plays. He's just a culture guy, and he always wants people in basketball, which is very rare in the NBA. Very few NBA teams do stuff like that. And he was always really... about taking us out to museums or having great speakers come in or taking us to theater or having musicians come through. And that was just a really cool thing for him to do.

Pop loved Russian. He loves plays. He's just a culture guy, and he always wants people in basketball, which is very rare in the NBA. Very few NBA teams do stuff like that. And he was always really... about taking us out to museums or having great speakers come in or taking us to theater or having musicians come through. And that was just a really cool thing for him to do.

Pop loved Russian. He loves plays. He's just a culture guy, and he always wants people in basketball, which is very rare in the NBA. Very few NBA teams do stuff like that. And he was always really... about taking us out to museums or having great speakers come in or taking us to theater or having musicians come through. And that was just a really cool thing for him to do.

He didn't have to do any of that.

He didn't have to do any of that.

He didn't have to do any of that.