Kirk Goldsberry

Robert Williams, Nurkic, maybe DeAndre Ayton.

So you could argue they needed Zubats.

The counter, though, to that Zubats trade, and the part that never made sense to me would happen is, why did you have to do it in February?

Because even if you get the fifth pick or the sixth pick, I still feel like the Clippers are going to be like, yeah, you're going to trade us that for Zubats?

Let's do it.

The risk didn't match the reward because I don't like making trades that are still going to be sitting there a few months later.

They just could have traded Toppin's contract and something smaller and the number five pick for Zubats and not given up the other first rounder that was in there.

So I just, I never thought the risk matched the reward.

And I thought Jacob's, I thought even they could have put like a, like a thing like, well, if this becomes the fifth or sixth pick in this draft, then we get our 29 first back or something.

Cause I like Zubats, but it just doesn't match what the reward was.

I don't think.

Well, the other thing, Kirk, is you do a trade like this and it's 50-50 odds, right?

If they get the pick, Pritchard's a hero.

You don't get the pick.

Now your fans are kind of looking side-eyed at you, but now you put Zubats in a tough spot too, who's a really good player.

I voted for him 13-0 NBA a year ago.

But now you look at him and you just watch him during games and you're just thinking about if Keaton Wagler's awesome for the Clippers, right?

you're just constantly thinking about that as you see Zubats.

The other thing I didn't like about the trade was before the trade deadline, you do it, and we thought there was a top four, and then we still knew after that the draft was good, but we knew there were four guys, and that's probably how the Pacers assessed it.

But where you're not