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So I think, I think that that's where I would come at this from. If you cannot donate, um, again, like we were talking, if you have a few dollars to spare, I mean, if everybody has a few dollars to spare, there is a finite number, like we were saying of asylum cases left, like from roses. So if people can spare a few dollars here or there, whenever they can, um, it does make the difference.
That's a very good point. I mean, yeah, people are coming already traumatized only to be further traumatized by this administration and the system. And yes, I mean, emotional and mental and any kind of support is not to be underestimated in the slightest during these times.
That's a very good point. I mean, yeah, people are coming already traumatized only to be further traumatized by this administration and the system. And yes, I mean, emotional and mental and any kind of support is not to be underestimated in the slightest during these times.
That's a very good point. I mean, yeah, people are coming already traumatized only to be further traumatized by this administration and the system. And yes, I mean, emotional and mental and any kind of support is not to be underestimated in the slightest during these times.
Absolutely. And just remembering that, again, these asylum cases are finite. So if you know any asylum seeker or can support any asylum seeker right now, They made it in. Let's give them their best shot. Yeah.
Absolutely. And just remembering that, again, these asylum cases are finite. So if you know any asylum seeker or can support any asylum seeker right now, They made it in. Let's give them their best shot. Yeah.
Absolutely. And just remembering that, again, these asylum cases are finite. So if you know any asylum seeker or can support any asylum seeker right now, They made it in. Let's give them their best shot. Yeah.
Yeah, thank you, James. I think the only thing I just want to emphasize is that, you know, from the standpoint of immigration attorneys, like, I feel that we're obviously a subject of an executive order and, you know, big law firms are being extorted by the administration to represent causes that the administration believes in and not pro bono immigration work and so forth and so on.
Yeah, thank you, James. I think the only thing I just want to emphasize is that, you know, from the standpoint of immigration attorneys, like, I feel that we're obviously a subject of an executive order and, you know, big law firms are being extorted by the administration to represent causes that the administration believes in and not pro bono immigration work and so forth and so on.
Yeah, thank you, James. I think the only thing I just want to emphasize is that, you know, from the standpoint of immigration attorneys, like, I feel that we're obviously a subject of an executive order and, you know, big law firms are being extorted by the administration to represent causes that the administration believes in and not pro bono immigration work and so forth and so on.
So it's not like too many of us have been personally attacked, although, you know, judges have been arrested, even judges for just hiring an immigrant to do work around the house. So, It is a scary time to be practicing immigration law, but unfortunately, I do see there being a time when it won't happen.
So it's not like too many of us have been personally attacked, although, you know, judges have been arrested, even judges for just hiring an immigrant to do work around the house. So, It is a scary time to be practicing immigration law, but unfortunately, I do see there being a time when it won't happen.
So it's not like too many of us have been personally attacked, although, you know, judges have been arrested, even judges for just hiring an immigrant to do work around the house. So, It is a scary time to be practicing immigration law, but unfortunately, I do see there being a time when it won't happen.
I mean, I see the writing on the wall where I will not be able to continue mentally and or economically because a side effect of all this and a very intentional side effect is to make it so that we can't do much for people anymore and or they can't afford us or there's not people here to do anything for because...
I mean, I see the writing on the wall where I will not be able to continue mentally and or economically because a side effect of all this and a very intentional side effect is to make it so that we can't do much for people anymore and or they can't afford us or there's not people here to do anything for because...
I mean, I see the writing on the wall where I will not be able to continue mentally and or economically because a side effect of all this and a very intentional side effect is to make it so that we can't do much for people anymore and or they can't afford us or there's not people here to do anything for because...
their spirit was broken or their finances and, or all of the above and they had to leave. So it is a very intense time, but I came from different areas of law. I've only been in immigration seven years and it's the first time I've thought of, okay, where am I going to go to next in these seven years? And it's, it's a very real thing. So if you, like I said, it feels very different than Trump 1.0.
their spirit was broken or their finances and, or all of the above and they had to leave. So it is a very intense time, but I came from different areas of law. I've only been in immigration seven years and it's the first time I've thought of, okay, where am I going to go to next in these seven years? And it's, it's a very real thing. So if you, like I said, it feels very different than Trump 1.0.
their spirit was broken or their finances and, or all of the above and they had to leave. So it is a very intense time, but I came from different areas of law. I've only been in immigration seven years and it's the first time I've thought of, okay, where am I going to go to next in these seven years? And it's, it's a very real thing. So if you, like I said, it feels very different than Trump 1.0.
So, in other words, take care of yourself if you are an ally. Yeah. Because, you know, the attack is on immigrants and anybody who advocates, supports, and so forth. And it's a very targeted, direct attack. And it's very easy to get run down. Yeah. And consumed by it. And so, definitely do what you need to do to take care of yourself.