Kirsten Zittlau
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And that motion was met with a really strange response. To this day, I don't really know exactly. It was sort of approved, but then moot because eventually a final court hearing was set. So that's where we're at right now. She has a final court next year and about a year and a couple months.
And that motion was met with a really strange response. To this day, I don't really know exactly. It was sort of approved, but then moot because eventually a final court hearing was set. So that's where we're at right now. She has a final court next year and about a year and a couple months.
And that motion was met with a really strange response. To this day, I don't really know exactly. It was sort of approved, but then moot because eventually a final court hearing was set. So that's where we're at right now. She has a final court next year and about a year and a couple months.
But in ruling on my WebEx motion, I was emailed the order of the judge along with a notice that primers should self-deport. Okay. So judges are sending out these notices with routine other orders in cases where the immigrant has counsel, is fighting their case. Yeah. It's obvious they're fighting their case. Jesus.
But in ruling on my WebEx motion, I was emailed the order of the judge along with a notice that primers should self-deport. Okay. So judges are sending out these notices with routine other orders in cases where the immigrant has counsel, is fighting their case. Yeah. It's obvious they're fighting their case. Jesus.
But in ruling on my WebEx motion, I was emailed the order of the judge along with a notice that primers should self-deport. Okay. So judges are sending out these notices with routine other orders in cases where the immigrant has counsel, is fighting their case. Yeah. It's obvious they're fighting their case. Jesus.
And yeah, so it's one of the things where you just feel very strongly this administration's influence. Are they obliged to do that? Or is that a choice that the judge is making? Not at all. And in fact, it's completely inappropriate. So all of us are... Okay. The immigration bar is taking a different approach to it.
And yeah, so it's one of the things where you just feel very strongly this administration's influence. Are they obliged to do that? Or is that a choice that the judge is making? Not at all. And in fact, it's completely inappropriate. So all of us are... Okay. The immigration bar is taking a different approach to it.
And yeah, so it's one of the things where you just feel very strongly this administration's influence. Are they obliged to do that? Or is that a choice that the judge is making? Not at all. And in fact, it's completely inappropriate. So all of us are... Okay. The immigration bar is taking a different approach to it.
Some are filing motions to recuse, telling the judges, hey, you need to recuse yourself. You're a non-neutral judge. To send this out in the middle of the case is absurd. It's a due process violation. They're entitled to a neutral judge. Yeah. I think my approach would be more one of playing dumb because often this has happened.
Some are filing motions to recuse, telling the judges, hey, you need to recuse yourself. You're a non-neutral judge. To send this out in the middle of the case is absurd. It's a due process violation. They're entitled to a neutral judge. Yeah. I think my approach would be more one of playing dumb because often this has happened.
Some are filing motions to recuse, telling the judges, hey, you need to recuse yourself. You're a non-neutral judge. To send this out in the middle of the case is absurd. It's a due process violation. They're entitled to a neutral judge. Yeah. I think my approach would be more one of playing dumb because often this has happened.
The system, if you will, of ECAS, the electronic system that we use for court immigration filing systems that Elon Musk briefly had access to or whatever was going on there. But anyways, I digress. You know, we'll send out automatic notices. with the emails, with the judge's order.
The system, if you will, of ECAS, the electronic system that we use for court immigration filing systems that Elon Musk briefly had access to or whatever was going on there. But anyways, I digress. You know, we'll send out automatic notices. with the emails, with the judge's order.
The system, if you will, of ECAS, the electronic system that we use for court immigration filing systems that Elon Musk briefly had access to or whatever was going on there. But anyways, I digress. You know, we'll send out automatic notices. with the emails, with the judge's order.
So my approach, I think, will be to give the judges the benefit of the doubt and ask them if this was an electronic notice. And if they say no, then I've gotten it on the record. And if they deny the case, I have that in there for the appeal. But yeah, it's happening all over the country with all sorts of different judges. And it's definitely something that we're grappling with right now.
So my approach, I think, will be to give the judges the benefit of the doubt and ask them if this was an electronic notice. And if they say no, then I've gotten it on the record. And if they deny the case, I have that in there for the appeal. But yeah, it's happening all over the country with all sorts of different judges. And it's definitely something that we're grappling with right now.
So my approach, I think, will be to give the judges the benefit of the doubt and ask them if this was an electronic notice. And if they say no, then I've gotten it on the record. And if they deny the case, I have that in there for the appeal. But yeah, it's happening all over the country with all sorts of different judges. And it's definitely something that we're grappling with right now.
And it's just, it's very ballsy for a A judge to say, hey, leave the country, and oh, by the way, I'm a neutral arbiter?
And it's just, it's very ballsy for a A judge to say, hey, leave the country, and oh, by the way, I'm a neutral arbiter?