Kirsty Costa (Host)

Great question, Kelly.

Jonah, what are your thoughts on this?

Yeah, I'd agree with that.

And I'd also add that when I organize weekend bird meetups and I ask people to tell me a little bit about their experience level, they always underrate themselves.

Yeah.

And then when I meet them, I think, holy moly, you know heaps about birds.

You're not a beginner at all.

So I think that some of the birdwatchers out there are actually very modest about their expertise too.

Yeah, I totally agree.

And I want to thank all the experienced birdwatchers out there who take the time to explain and help everyone to learn.

It's so appreciated.

Okay, our next question is from Hugh Possingham.

Hugh is a longtime friend of the show and he's been on multiple episodes, including one about Australia's robins and another about the Oxford Common in Brisbane.

Hugh has just become the president of BirdLife Australia and he has a very important question for us.

Never have truer words been spoken.

Jonah, thoughts on this?

Yeah, I love that as a flowing philosophy that we should all hold on to.

I also really like it because in my beginner birdwatcher life, I just imagine birds out there in nature, in the wild, in national parks.

And, you know, obviously some of the best birding experiences I've had recently have been in my local area and have been in car parks.

And it's a reminder that birds are living alongside us and you don't have to go out into the wild to see them.