Kit Bennett

But that's what we were looking to do.

And the way we did that was that sometimes in an operation, you take it to a certain point and then you're cut out of it and someone else comes in.

And that can be deeply frustrating because you then are cut out and the need to know arises, you don't know what happened.

You don't know.

And that was the case with this.

And I was on this non-existent evaluation team that the New Zealand government had set up, and I was the reserve officer on that.

And they were clamouring for this.

You know, I've got this...

I've got this mate that I met there.

Actually, I'm hoping to meet him next time I'm out because he's doing some work with a clerk or something.

And I piggybacked him in.

And then he was going to be passing.

He was theoretically an armaments, a guidance system guy.

You say you know something about this, but really this is the time for you to... Yeah, one of the guys that I was working with, really great American guy, and he's coming through here because we were talking the other day, you must meet him, you know, and he was on the design team of the F-16 and he's a good guy and pretty easygoing, you know, that sort of thing.

Come to Manila to chat openly with... He was going up to Clark Air Base to do something or Subic Bay or something to do something.

The part that should have had them concerned was that now we're dealing with an American who's dealing with guidance systems.

It all has top secret stamped top and bottom.

And he is a Russian diplomat.

I mean, it's an ask.

But these things happened.