Kitty Holland

No, I don't.

Not with 14 year olds.

I mean, if you had a very young.

very young looking 24 year olds they possibly could end up for you know a few weeks in a accommodation with sort of 17 year olds but I think it would be I think 24 would probably be quite oh you know older than usual you know I think it really is the borderline cases between as as your colleague there was saying between the 17 years and 11 months and 18 years and one month and

And I suppose, you know, the issue that would strike me is that if there are age disputed young people, that they should be in really in residential centres where there's fully qualified staff and that there's a good staff ratio because, you know, young people carry a lot of trauma and their brains aren't fully developed, you know, until they're quite a bit older and, you know, regulating their emotions and their trauma and that kind of thing.

And I suppose, you know,

The issue is if they're in a residential centre where there aren't sufficient staff and who are properly trauma informed, trained and all that kind of thing to manage them and to look after them properly, that's where things can go wrong.

And that would be, you know, the horrifying situations that

that can arise and we know do arise.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, they do still exist.

I mean, Tulsa, in fairness, is reducing their reliance on them and they, you know, they

I think there's about 70 young people in special emergency arrangements.

The majority of them actually are coming from Irish households, not unaccompanied minors.

And again, it goes back to funding.

Tulsa is chronically underfunded.

They get half of what they ask for every year.

They ask for the Department of Children

doesn't get the sanction from the department of public expenditure to give the funding, you know, provide the funding that Tesla needs.