Konstantin Kisin

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I was going to say, because what you're really talking about here, David, and what we saw in the comedy industry and a lot of other industries have seen, and it's a tragedy, is the death of meritocracy.

And what people don't realize is that once you get rid of meritocracy, everything else is doomed.

It will eventually crumble.

That's why so many people love sport.

You go and watch a Premier League or the NBA or UFC or a heavyweight boxing championship.

When you buy your ticket, what you're buying is access to the elite level athlete doing things that you couldn't possibly dream of at the highest level.

But if diversity comes into, for instance, football or basketball, then it's over.

And this is what people don't seem to understand.

Cambridge is only Cambridge because it's meant to be the best of the very best.

Look, I think it's... The fact is... Because there was still part of me holding on to the fact that it was a vocal minority and that the rest of them were cowed into silence and that it was cowardice, effectively.

But the fact that the majority of them believe that...

To me, that has completely changed the way I see this discussion because I didn't think the majority of them actually believed this nonsense.

And we're not learning the lessons from ancient Greece and ancient Atherans, which is, you mentioned that word, hubris, an excess of pride.

And you're looking at the universities.

I mean, if that's not an excess of pride to go on TV and go, you know what?

You can turn from a man into a woman.