Konstantin Kisin

So we're going to talk about all of that.

But before we do, tell us a little bit about you.

What's your story?

What's been your journey through life?

Yeah.

Well, you've written a number of books.

Some of them have caused a bunch of controversies as well.

We'll maybe talk about that later.

But let's talk about what you are actually talking about in Origin of Politics.

You give this... You basically did something that I've been trying to...

explain for a very long time as someone who was born in the Soviet Union, which you basically explain why communism never works, the biological reasons for why communism works.

And you give a fascinating example of voluntary communism, which was the kibbutz system in Israel.

Talk to us about that.

And you do a brilliant job in the book explaining where the tension between the desire for equality expressed ultimately in something like the kibbutzim and the desire for merit-based hierarchy, let's say it like that, right?

Where they come from evolutionarily.

Can you share that with our viewers and listeners?

So another tribe wouldn't come and kill all of you and take all of your women?

But once you have a generation of children, you can't control that anymore.

And that's part of the generational impact, right?

Yeah.