Konstantin Kisin

It's such a profound point.

And because I have this joke, which is we all treated COVID like a bad one night stand.

We're just going to walk away going, no, that never happened.

I never said this.

I never did that.

And we're just all going to walk away and pretend like it was just one big dream.

One of the things I wanted to talk to you about is we talked a little bit about, touched on it almost like charisma.

I've got this theory, and I'd be very interested to hear your view on it, having worked with actors and influencers.

To me, charisma and mental illness...

Kind of almost intrinsically linked.

And I'll tell you why.

Because when you see someone in real life and you talk to them and I've seen this with a lot of actors, I'm like, oh, my God, this this guy's crazy.

You put a camera on him.

Boom.

It's charisma.

That edge that I don't know where he which way he or she is going to go in real life.

You're like, that's scary on camera.

That's magic.

Maybe a little bit of both.

But that's fine for an actor.