Konstantin Kisin

Is that why you wanted to talk about this issue?

One of the interesting things that I think you explore in the book is why this is all happening in the West, why there's been these gigantic waves of mass immigration in the last 20 years in particular.

And it was interesting, I was listening to you on another podcast with our friend Winston, and he asked you about the comments that Jim Ratcliffe made when he said England's been colonized by immigrants.

And he said, do you think that's true?

And you said,

Of course, which I thought was surprising, actually, because I think that the reason I don't agree with what he said, even though I understand why he said it, is that I think to say something is colonization is to imply that the people who are coming are responsible for it, whereas what your book actually explores is the people who are responsible for the ways of mass immigration, the people who are encouraging and making it possible.

Encouraged and, in fact, invited, I would argue.

Quite.

And you mentioned that you agree with me that this is being invited.

What do you think is the motivation for all of this?

Or were there motivations?

I'm sure there's more than one.

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