Konstantin Kisin

We're not supposed to be podcasting, right?

And I get meaning out of being a podcaster.

Transitioning to the agricultural revolution, transitioning to early states, transitioning to bigger states, transitioning to the industrial revolution, transitioning to modernity.

All these things.

I mean, obviously, there's a certain amount of people who do feel estranged from society, and that has part of... Like, part of it is that you're not just out on the savannah with your tribe.

But we've coped.

And I think...

We will cope to a world where there's abundance and where disease is solved, where we can even intervene and help you get healthier in all kinds of different ways to have... I mean, just, yeah, again, go back to this analogy of would a person in the 14th century even realize what they're missing out on because they don't have all the technologies we have today.

They don't have antibiotics.

They don't have modern technology and conveniences.

Yeah.

I think another analogy is Saudi Arabia, where there's this huge imported labor force, but the actual citizens are sort of subsisting on this oil wealth.

It's a good analogy.

And I don't know much about Saudi Arabia, but yeah, you want...

You want people to be sort of engaged.

You want people to develop their facilities, right?

What does it mean to be a human?

Ultimately, what is civilization for?

We want flourishing human beings.

I do think this is the kind of thing where it's hard to say in advance how we'll figure it out.