Konstantin Kisin

And it's also believing as well that it's very anti-human.

That's the other thing about it.

I remember talking to a neighbour of mine, and he's an old boy and he's got a few kids.

Careful.

He wasn't in his prime like you are, Ian.

And he was talking about one of his sons and he said that he didn't want to have children.

I was like, okay, is it a lifestyle choice?

And he just went, no, no, he's really worried about the climate and so they don't want to bring children into a world where they feel that the world is going to end.

And I just thought that's unbelievably tragic.

And it's also, the thing that I resent is I don't mind having conversations about climate science, climate change, talking to different people who've got different views.

Fine.

What I hate is this culture of fear that I now see in the media, where if it's a bit cold, they say extreme weather.

You're like, mate, it's a bit of sleep.

What's going on?

Or what you get on the other side of it is this phrase that always is used now, since records began.

This is the hottest weather since records began.

And just going by what you say, you go, well, the records haven't been around that long, have they?

And what's really interesting now, actually, is that you're seeing a number of big-name people who pushed this narrative who are now starting to roll back on it.

Case in point, Bill Gates.

And the thing that I find particularly worrying is what you're talking about is how there is an institutional capture in these scientific institutes.