Konstantin Kisin

Especially middle class people. Yeah.

Especially middle class people. Yeah.

Especially middle class people. Yeah.

Yeah. But just for people who haven't seen the film, I mean, in that school, you've got pupils assaulting each other left, right and centre, telling the teachers to fuck off. I mean, we could go down the list, but it's basic. It is not a place in which the adults are in charge.

Yeah. But just for people who haven't seen the film, I mean, in that school, you've got pupils assaulting each other left, right and centre, telling the teachers to fuck off. I mean, we could go down the list, but it's basic. It is not a place in which the adults are in charge.

Yeah. But just for people who haven't seen the film, I mean, in that school, you've got pupils assaulting each other left, right and centre, telling the teachers to fuck off. I mean, we could go down the list, but it's basic. It is not a place in which the adults are in charge.

Well, I was going to slightly disagree with you. Maybe it's not disagreement. Maybe we're just talking about different things. Would you not be in favor of banning phones in schools?

Well, I was going to slightly disagree with you. Maybe it's not disagreement. Maybe we're just talking about different things. Would you not be in favor of banning phones in schools?

Well, I was going to slightly disagree with you. Maybe it's not disagreement. Maybe we're just talking about different things. Would you not be in favor of banning phones in schools?

There's a reason we don't all have our phones here. Yeah, exactly. Because we're concentrating on the conversation we're having.

There's a reason we don't all have our phones here. Yeah, exactly. Because we're concentrating on the conversation we're having.

There's a reason we don't all have our phones here. Yeah, exactly. Because we're concentrating on the conversation we're having.

But isn't the counterargument to that exactly what you just said, which is to be fully prepared for the modern world, you do have to be familiar with all these tools and these technologies. I mean, we've had people working for us who've come to us at the age of 18, and they know more about YouTube than we do.

But isn't the counterargument to that exactly what you just said, which is to be fully prepared for the modern world, you do have to be familiar with all these tools and these technologies. I mean, we've had people working for us who've come to us at the age of 18, and they know more about YouTube than we do.

But isn't the counterargument to that exactly what you just said, which is to be fully prepared for the modern world, you do have to be familiar with all these tools and these technologies. I mean, we've had people working for us who've come to us at the age of 18, and they know more about YouTube than we do.

And do you worry that, I have to be honest with you, I thought the film was powerful. I thought it made some really important points. I am almost certain it's going to cause a moral panic in which there are going to be all sorts of overreactions. An example, you know, Franz and I were talking about this after watching it. You know those harnesses that people have two-year-olds on in Britain?

And do you worry that, I have to be honest with you, I thought the film was powerful. I thought it made some really important points. I am almost certain it's going to cause a moral panic in which there are going to be all sorts of overreactions. An example, you know, Franz and I were talking about this after watching it. You know those harnesses that people have two-year-olds on in Britain?

And do you worry that, I have to be honest with you, I thought the film was powerful. I thought it made some really important points. I am almost certain it's going to cause a moral panic in which there are going to be all sorts of overreactions. An example, you know, Franz and I were talking about this after watching it. You know those harnesses that people have two-year-olds on in Britain?

That happened after, I think, the Jamie Bulger killing. And Jamie Bulger wasn't killed, forgive me, because she wasn't on a dog lead. Do you know what I mean? And the way the parents do that, like, my wife looks at that in horror, right? So do you worry that there's going to be another... The reason I ask this is, like, when I was looking at some of the stuff that this film portrays,

That happened after, I think, the Jamie Bulger killing. And Jamie Bulger wasn't killed, forgive me, because she wasn't on a dog lead. Do you know what I mean? And the way the parents do that, like, my wife looks at that in horror, right? So do you worry that there's going to be another... The reason I ask this is, like, when I was looking at some of the stuff that this film portrays,