Konstantin Kisin

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But isn't the problem with ostracization, David, that

Look, what we talk about on the show a lot are unpleasant truths because sometimes the truth is unpleasant.

And if you have somebody who's brave enough and has integrity and goes, look, we're not addressing the real issue here.

In many ways, that's not in everyone's best interest.

And if you want this person gone because it's an unpleasant truth, then that is a way of dealing with and silencing free speech.

Because what is so interesting about the Greek states is that sometimes they're at war with one another

Athens and Sparta.

And then sometimes when you have the Persian Empire looking to invade, they became allies.

It's really quite bizarre in many ways because that's not how you saw states within a country behave.

So can we actually just talk about the Persian War briefly?

Yes, let's get into it because the Greeks and the Athenians, they were the underdogs.

Persia had a huge army.

They had what many people believe was a superior navy.

And there were three major battles.

And one, which if you don't know anything about ancient Greek history, is a word that we use all the time now, which is marathon.

Look, we spend a lot of time on trigonometry talking about things that matter.