Kristen McMenamy

And it was just amazing timing.

Amazing timing.

I mean...

The fact that I was working in the 90s and I'm here laying on this couch talking about it and still working is phenomenal.

I mean, phenomenal.

So yeah, I mean, we were, but we didn't have distractions, no mobile phones because everybody now, the models you walk into like backstage, they're always looking on their phones and they're not engaging.

Like, we had to engage.

And we had to work.

You know, we had to work.

There were no, like, there were less restrictions, less rules that they have now.

Now it's kind of like, do your job.

look pretty, leave.

And the little girls don't have a chance to develop because they're taken so quickly and put on this golden stage of being the girl of the moment forever.

the whole fashion industry, you know?

And it's like, wait a minute.

So they, I don't know.

I don't know what effect it has on them.

But for me, it has had a horrible effect.

It's like, it's modeling hard work.

Well, I never thought of it as hard work.