Kristin Demoranville
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first heard Jun 2024
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And lo and behold, we're seeing this in real time with Ukraine, as an example, and other places. Yeah.
Yeah. And I think the other article recently I just ran into, because obviously I pay attention to a lot of the farming community news, they've been talking about the quality of the soil because of the wars that are going on. What's going to happen to the topsoil because of it? And of course, people are like, that's a stupid thing to worry about a lot. The Earth will just heal itself.
Yes, but the Earth takes a while to heal itself. It's not like it's a snap of the finger and it's magically healed by some massive technology that us humans have created. Probably destroy the planet more if we try to create a technology like that. Let's be honest. But I think the fact that people are looking at this in such a systems thinking approach, this is what's happening here.
It's going to affect here. You know, it's all interconnected. And it just goes to show you how fragile the food system is ultimately and how fragile the food supply system is. And again, how do we how do we deal with this? I feel like I spent quite a bit of time, George, educating the cybersecurity community that this is a problem and there's tech there.
A bit on air, I've talked to people who literally thought that cows were built by hand or that nothing's secret or safe inside the food industry. And I had to 100% clap back and say, your favorite snack recipe is secret. That's just a random example. And then how the machines are made to create your said favorite snack.
I worked for a company that they created a machine that suspended eight blueberries in one mix. And they had to do it in such a way that gravity was being restricted. It was very, very engineer crazy. But that patent for that machine is secret. They obviously wouldn't want a competitor to know that. How to suspend blueberries in a mix.
So it's just, it's frustrating to me that I have to not only help, I'm obviously helping the food industry and that's great. And I love that. And that's where it fills me up. But I have to like turn around to my competitors.
colleagues and be like hey guys are you thinking about this in a you know a holistic manner in which it encompasses everything and what you're doing over here probably is affecting over here and bottom line you're probably hurting a farmer i i it's one of those moments where i'm constantly having to to have that conversation and obviously part of the reason why the podcast is here is to open that space up more and have those conversations and that dialogue between all the different people that are involved in the stakeholders
Exactly. And it's so great that you brought up that traceability aspect because the food safety side of the house is that's their big thing now, traceability. Because they need to be able to trace it back and what happened in the food. They know that they're going to have to use tech to do this. Basically, they want to check all the way back down to see.
So that's what they would like to be able to do at some point. But that traceability aspect is already very prevalent in the food side because it's part of their mandate. It's part of the regulations now.
Correct. Yes, it's very much true. And we won't even get into s bombs. But like that starts to get real, like, creepy and scary. And people are tackling that. And that's not for me. But I appreciate the people that are doing that work, because that's definitely a lot of traceability and, and ability to be able to communicate what's in something to software in this case.
I do think that we're going to need partnerships and collaboration when it comes to traceability, when it comes to cyber events. We need to normalize feeling like crap when something happens. Yes. I was speaking to another colleague who does the work that I do similar, and they were talking about how there were two ransomware attacks that hit this year.
One paid the ransom, one didn't pay the ransom, and they increased. They equally both were screwed. It was definitely a bankrupt situation on both sides, just for one purpose or the other. But what this person was telling me that they were really saddened by, besides that fact, because that's horrible in itself, was the emotional reaction from both sides. One company was angry and just volatile.
The other one was remorseful and shameful and crying, like grown men crying. And I said, are you okay? Because I was a cybersecurity expert going into help. Are you okay? And the response back was yes, but I was not prepared to deal with their emotions. I did not know how to do that.
and it got me thinking that as cyber security experts we see people literally at their worst like at their worst moment you have to have such a high level of emotional intelligence to be here to understand to either a not absorb it or b take reaction to it i was just speaking at a meetup group yesterday just with some new newer coming into the world of cyber and there's part of me that always wants to be like right away but not like in a joking way but uh-huh you would not be the first
Yeah, I'm sure. But I was talking with this one person who had just come out of desktop support and is now in the identity space, which I thought looks great. And I was talking to him and he said, you know, I really feel like my time in desktop support and IT really taught me how to deal with people. And I said, that's great. Hold on to that because you're going to need it. Trust me.
I said, you're going to need to know how to handle an executive who chucks their laptop at you from across the room. you know, when they're angry about something. You're going to need to know how to handle a boardroom that's full of people that are upset because they didn't understand what you're trying to say because they didn't get the research ahead of time and you dropped a bomb.
And then you're going to have to deal with that fallout.
It's like you've failed and you didn't fail. Yeah. Yeah.
And I think specifically in the food industry, because it's such an emotionally charged industry. And I'm not saying like food people or farmers or ranchers are emotional. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying it's a heart and soul moment. There's a lot of heart that goes into these jobs.
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