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Kristin Demoranville

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Bites & Bytes Podcast
Safeguarding the Grid and the Plate: OT Insights with Aaron Crow, Host of PrOTect IT All Podcast

We're able to roll it back. So it didn't affect our production. It just affected like a sanitation shift. Thankfully, the food industry was okay, which is good from the small sampling I did in my life. But I was glad to hear that they focused on resilience more than recovery. And I was like, yes, like we're getting there slowly. I don't care if it was five people I knew, but it was good.

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Safeguarding the Grid and the Plate: OT Insights with Aaron Crow, Host of PrOTect IT All Podcast

We're able to roll it back. So it didn't affect our production. It just affected like a sanitation shift. Thankfully, the food industry was okay, which is good from the small sampling I did in my life. But I was glad to hear that they focused on resilience more than recovery. And I was like, yes, like we're getting there slowly. I don't care if it was five people I knew, but it was good.

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Safeguarding the Grid and the Plate: OT Insights with Aaron Crow, Host of PrOTect IT All Podcast

But as OT professionals, I can't even tell you when you read an article or have a conversation with somebody and they're like, oh yeah, it's about legacy systems that aren't patched. Is it? I mean, what? There are systems inside some of these factories that I've worked in, I know you've seen this too, that are probably like 40 years old, probably running a 98 second edition rocking it, right?

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Safeguarding the Grid and the Plate: OT Insights with Aaron Crow, Host of PrOTect IT All Podcast

But as OT professionals, I can't even tell you when you read an article or have a conversation with somebody and they're like, oh yeah, it's about legacy systems that aren't patched. Is it? I mean, what? There are systems inside some of these factories that I've worked in, I know you've seen this too, that are probably like 40 years old, probably running a 98 second edition rocking it, right?

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Safeguarding the Grid and the Plate: OT Insights with Aaron Crow, Host of PrOTect IT All Podcast

98 second edition is a solid operating system if it's still up. I'm sorry. We all know you don't touch the dust. You don't touch anything on it because it's probably holding it up by a thread, which isn't good because you don't want that either. But there's ways around dealing with that that you don't have to operate.

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Safeguarding the Grid and the Plate: OT Insights with Aaron Crow, Host of PrOTect IT All Podcast

98 second edition is a solid operating system if it's still up. I'm sorry. We all know you don't touch the dust. You don't touch anything on it because it's probably holding it up by a thread, which isn't good because you don't want that either. But there's ways around dealing with that that you don't have to operate.

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Safeguarding the Grid and the Plate: OT Insights with Aaron Crow, Host of PrOTect IT All Podcast

because upgrading a system like that is probably running one process that comes up once a quarter. It's gonna be millions of dollars. Probably the entire budget for a year for a company, right? The trick is, it's just making sure that you segment it and you know it exists. And making sure you watch it, like just watch it. It doesn't have to be anything more than that.

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Safeguarding the Grid and the Plate: OT Insights with Aaron Crow, Host of PrOTect IT All Podcast

because upgrading a system like that is probably running one process that comes up once a quarter. It's gonna be millions of dollars. Probably the entire budget for a year for a company, right? The trick is, it's just making sure that you segment it and you know it exists. And making sure you watch it, like just watch it. It doesn't have to be anything more than that.

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Safeguarding the Grid and the Plate: OT Insights with Aaron Crow, Host of PrOTect IT All Podcast

It doesn't have to be the big fancy, everything around it and all these bells and whistles. I mean, if you could afford all that, that's cool. But do you need all that? Somebody once said on a podcast of mine, not that long back, do you actually need that tech? Are you okay without that tech? Specifically talking about farming.

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Safeguarding the Grid and the Plate: OT Insights with Aaron Crow, Host of PrOTect IT All Podcast

It doesn't have to be the big fancy, everything around it and all these bells and whistles. I mean, if you could afford all that, that's cool. But do you need all that? Somebody once said on a podcast of mine, not that long back, do you actually need that tech? Are you okay without that tech? Specifically talking about farming.

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Safeguarding the Grid and the Plate: OT Insights with Aaron Crow, Host of PrOTect IT All Podcast

And I was like, that's a really great question because you actually need it. If everything's working okay and you're okay and everything else around it is okay, why do you need to bring that in? And he goes, isn't that just another risk attack factor? And I was like, this is a brilliant conversation. I love this. Because it's true.

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Safeguarding the Grid and the Plate: OT Insights with Aaron Crow, Host of PrOTect IT All Podcast

And I was like, that's a really great question because you actually need it. If everything's working okay and you're okay and everything else around it is okay, why do you need to bring that in? And he goes, isn't that just another risk attack factor? And I was like, this is a brilliant conversation. I love this. Because it's true.

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Safeguarding the Grid and the Plate: OT Insights with Aaron Crow, Host of PrOTect IT All Podcast

That's how I think about it in a lot of these industrial environments. Do you actually need that? Do you need to be able to sit on your couch at night and monitor the temperature of your vat? I mean, if you do, tell me. That's fine. But do you really need it? Because you have a 24 by 7 plant. if it's got a practical reuse, that's brilliant. We'll do it.

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Safeguarding the Grid and the Plate: OT Insights with Aaron Crow, Host of PrOTect IT All Podcast

That's how I think about it in a lot of these industrial environments. Do you actually need that? Do you need to be able to sit on your couch at night and monitor the temperature of your vat? I mean, if you do, tell me. That's fine. But do you really need it? Because you have a 24 by 7 plant. if it's got a practical reuse, that's brilliant. We'll do it.

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Safeguarding the Grid and the Plate: OT Insights with Aaron Crow, Host of PrOTect IT All Podcast

But if it's anything crazy, let's rethink it. I think we need to have that conversation more in the industry, especially in food. Cause we automate, we add all these really cool things and we do all this stuff and it's awesome. And now we have like Chick-fil-A mobile delivery units in Georgia. I don't know if you've seen them. They're kind of creepy. It's

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Safeguarding the Grid and the Plate: OT Insights with Aaron Crow, Host of PrOTect IT All Podcast

But if it's anything crazy, let's rethink it. I think we need to have that conversation more in the industry, especially in food. Cause we automate, we add all these really cool things and we do all this stuff and it's awesome. And now we have like Chick-fil-A mobile delivery units in Georgia. I don't know if you've seen them. They're kind of creepy. It's

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Safeguarding the Grid and the Plate: OT Insights with Aaron Crow, Host of PrOTect IT All Podcast

it's literally like a little bike that drives up to your house and it's all automated and it's insane wow and and i'm just like i don't know i don't know if we've gone too far yeah like maybe we should roll that back

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Safeguarding the Grid and the Plate: OT Insights with Aaron Crow, Host of PrOTect IT All Podcast

it's literally like a little bike that drives up to your house and it's all automated and it's insane wow and and i'm just like i don't know i don't know if we've gone too far yeah like maybe we should roll that back

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Safeguarding the Grid and the Plate: OT Insights with Aaron Crow, Host of PrOTect IT All Podcast

Oh, okay.

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Safeguarding the Grid and the Plate: OT Insights with Aaron Crow, Host of PrOTect IT All Podcast

Oh, okay.