Safeguarding the Grid and the Plate: OT Insights with Aaron Crow, Host of PrOTect IT All Podcast

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Kristin Demoranville 0:01
Thank you.
Kristin Demoranville 0:29
Welcome to the Bites and Bites podcast. I'm your host, Kristen DeMoranville. And today we have something really awesome for you. I've teamed up with Aaron Crow, the Protect It All podcast host for this joint episode. Aaron and I chat about operational technology or OT, exploring how this critical area impacts industries from power to the food sector. Whether you're a cybersecurity pro or a food professional or just curious about how these issues affect our daily lives, this episode has something for you. So grab a snack, enjoy your workout, plane ride or commute and get ready for an enlightening conversation. And hey, while you're here, don't forget to like, subscribe, and share this episode with your friends and colleagues.
Kristin Demoranville 1:11
If you haven't already, check out our website for more content, including this episode, blogs, and the merch shop. We've got some really awesome t-shirts, hats, aprons, and even a few other surprises. Let's get to it.
Aaron Crow 1:29
Awesome. Hey, thank you for joining me. Kristen, why don't you introduce yourself? Tell us who you are and what it is that you do.
Kristin Demoranville 1:34
Okay, great. Thanks for having me on the show. I am Kristen DeMaranville. I am the host of Bites and Bites podcast. That's bites like you bite something and bites like computer bites, where I talk to cybersecurity and technology professionals and anybody else in the food and agricultural industry about cybersecurity and technology and what that means to our food supply. It's a really fun show. So you can check us out. Also, we're kind of doing a joint episode here. Welcome to my listeners as well. But what I actually do, I am the CEO of Anson Sage, which is a cybersecurity firm that's focused on the food and ag industry, mainly risk management, OT related assessments, those kinds of things, trainings, lots of trainings.
Kristin Demoranville 2:14
I keep writing lots of trainings on what it means to be a cybersecurity professional in the food industry and how to be a better food professional with cybersecurity knowledge. So And then the other thing I am, I'm also CEO of Anzen OT, which is a OT resilience intelligence management platform. Risk intelligence really features different things like cyber PHA assessment, scenario building, playbooks, lots of really cool intelligence things behind it. It is new on the market. We are a new startup. So come check us out there. I'm happy to talk about that all day long as well.
Aaron Crow 2:48
Very cool. Well, and for your listeners that maybe don't know me, my name is Aaron Crow. I've been in cybersecurity and network security and this OT thing before it was ever called that. I grew up in working in critical manufacturing, power utility, a lot of those critical infrastructures. I actually do have some experience in the ag side as well. I'm from Texas. So, you know, there's a lot of plants and things like that in this space from chicken plants and a lot of, you know, ranchers, et cetera. Right. So, you know, I've I also have a podcast, Protect It All, and emphasizing OT and IT. I do emphasize a lot of that in the OT space. But as we talk about this stuff, I had this conversation. This is, what, the 14th of August when we're recording this.
Aaron Crow 3:31
And I just came back from Black Hat and DEF CON. And I had so many questions and I work in the ICS Village. I'm a volunteer in the ICS Village, which is a nonprofit. If you don't know about that, definitely check it out. ICS Village is great. They do a lot of training and nonprofit things to kind of spread the word for operational technology and the importance of it. But a lot of the conversations I was having at DEF CON, I've got this really cool blinky light OT wall that's got a PLC and secure mode access and a firewall. And it's really just a conversation piece to help people understand and I got so many people, this is 2024. And there's so many people that came up to me and were like, what is this? So I said, oh, well, this is OT in a box. What's OT?
Aaron Crow 4:10
And I'm like, oh, okay. Like we still, many of them, and I love the question. Like I'm very glad that they said, I don't know what that is. Like, or some of them were like, I've heard of it. I don't exactly know what it is. So it was great to just be able to have that conversation, explain it. And there was one gentleman that he was going for his PhD, his dissertation.

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