Kristin Demoranville
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Bites and Bytes Podcast · Agroterrorism & Cyber Threats: How Farms Are Under Attack · 4 Mar 2025
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Welcome back to the Bites and Bites podcast, where food, technology, and cybersecurity collide. I'm your host, Kristen Demiranville, and today we're talking about a topic that's both urgent and very unsettling, agroterrorism. Farms are being targeted by cyber criminals, radical activists and bad actors looking to disrupt food production.
While this is well known within agriculture, it's largely overlooked outside of it. Before we begin today, a quick listener advisory. In this episode, we will discuss uncomfortable topics, including terrorism. animal harm, radical activism, radical veganism, extreme groups, and cult-like behaviors. Listener discretion is advised. With that, let's jump into the conversation.
Well, we have a very interesting episode today. It's a little bit off of the norm, I would say, for Bites and Bites. We're going to talk about agroterrorism. But before we do all that and define it so the listeners understand what it is and what it's not, I'm going to go around the room and introduce the experts I have. And I'm very excited because once again, we have Andrew Rose.
Andrew, just quickly introduce yourself and then we'll go around the room.
Thank you all. And in tradition with Bites and Bites, we're going to go around the room and talk about our current food fixation and our favorite food memory to date. Hannah, I will start with you.
And I'm sure every food safety listener just cringed as you said that.
I think everyone's had that moment though. Oh no, we still do. Yeah. And Andrew, last but not least.
That's amazing. And I love that you had centered around community as well, Andrew, because I know that's a big deal for you. So that's awesome. Great. This is all wonderful. But we're here to talk about agro-terrorism and people are probably like, what is that? Another terrorism? Great. If someone could define it, that'd be amazing.
maybe the original definition mike that you're reading was probably based on like during war times in a way so poisoning of horses if you're moving military or the livestock that fed on army or something like that maybe that's kind of an old set of definitions and i mean that is terrorism in itself right you're poisoning animals to harm people that are dealing with whatever's going on in a crisis situation maybe that's why that definition never really updated because it was still very military focused
Are there any challenges in detection? Because I would assume that some of these incidents would mimic some natural outbreaks potentially or making identification difficult at times. It may not be an obvious, this is a terrorist moment. This could be locusts or something. Just curious.
But before we continue, I want to take a moment to thank you for tuning into the Bites and Bites podcast. This episode is packed with critical insights on agroterrorism, cybersecurity, and real threats facing agriculture. If you would like to learn more about these issues, I've included additional resources in the show notes. And while we're here, don't forget to like this episode.
If you're listening on YouTube or your favorite podcast platform, leave a comment and share your thoughts. And most importantly, help spread awareness by sharing this episode with your network. All right, let's jump back in. As you're talking, I'm thinking about supply chain disruptions and I'm thinking about all the different ways that happens.
And from my security mindset, ransomware is a disruptor. You know, malicious intent, whether it's inside or outside or threat is disruptive. Does cybersecurity incidents fit?
Considering hacking is now a service as a service is terrifying. And the fact that they could just basically find a hacking gang on the dark web. And there you go. You start a relationship. We're off to the races with this. Literally, that is obviously the listeners can't see all my my faces, but I was making like 15 faces during that whole conversation because I get that a lot.
It's it's knowing what I know about operational technology and cybersecurity and what I know about the food industry as a whole and agriculture at There are so many attack factors that need to be dealt with now. Like that is insane to me. And now we have to deal with the people problem on a different level.
Just people being really bad people because they whatever feelings they have or financial gain or nation state or any of that stuff. That is one more thing the farmer doesn't need or the producer doesn't need. They just want to raise their animals and farm and do their life. And that's it. That's all they want to do.
And now they have to worry about all of this and all the new tech they bring in is a new issue and potentially going to be used against them or to spy on them. Farm tours, I'm sure you could speak to that, Hannah, how that's probably very problematic ultimately. And that was something I learned from Andrew as well, that farm tours are actually problematic.
They can be if they're not done right and people aren't watched because... Just like a risk assessment, you can go around and take pictures and understand how the systems work and use it against people.
Sounds like cult-like behavior, the way you describe it. That's incredible. What steps can they take to protect themselves from agroterrorism?
Do you think, and this is for all of you, do you think that as a professional group of, we'll say, cybersecurity and any other groups that are surrounding the type of work that needs to help protect, do you think that we have the right knowledge sets to do this? Do you think that we have enough experience to do this? Because as we know, it's a critical infrastructure, right?
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