ICS/OT Trends and the Food We Eat: A Conversation with Mike Holcomb
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Welcome to the award-winning Bites and Bytes podcast. I'm your host, Kristen DeMoranville, and I'm thrilled to welcome you to the first episode of 2025 and of the second season. Today's guest is someone I've wanted to bring onto the show for a while, my good friend, Mike Holcomb. Mike is one of the most recognizable names in the OTICS cybersecurity world. And if you've been in the community for more than five minutes, you've probably heard of him. He's not just an OT-ICS cybersecurity expert. He's also a fantastic trainer and coach, including sharing his knowledge with free educational content on YouTube. Mike has a way of making complex topics approachable and fun, and I'm thrilled that he's here.
We're going to talk about the evolving ICS-OT cybersecurity landscape and how it connects to some of the industries that don't always get attention that they deserve, like food and agriculture. So grab a snack, get comfy, and let's jump right into it. Well, I'm absolutely delighted and excited that I finally have Mike Holcomb on the podcast. So anybody in the ICSOT community is probably going, yay, Mike, because we all love Mike. So it's absolute pleasure to have you here with me, Mike.
No, I'm glad to be here. No, I'm happy we finally got to do this.
Yeah, me too. It's probably long overdue ultimately. So as I start every show, we're going to jump straight into your favorite food and your favorite food memory. They do not need to be the same thing.
Gotcha. Yeah. I had to put some thought into this, I guess. But off the top of my head, I would... My favorite food these days to eat, I am very much into like new American small plate food. That's kind of our jam these days. My favorite food memory, I always go back to, I just have to go, it's more like popcorn and candy at the movie theaters. So my grandfather used to take me to the movies all the time. And so that was... I just remember always getting popcorn and then, um, Jordan almonds was, was my, my thing back then. You can't really find them that much these days, other than like to order them off Amazon or like the, uh, craft supply store for whatever reason has that. That's weird. Right. But I'm like, okay.
Uh, but yeah, we used to get those. I just remember, yeah. Going to see like, you know, the empire strikes back or return of the Jedi and, uh, all those great movies and just spending the time with him. And, and yeah, it was always just, you know, kind of the, the movies and the popcorn and the candy. So.
Did you mix your popcorn and your candy in the bowl or did you keep them separate?
So with Jordan almonds, you had to keep those separate. Now, then I evolved to when Jordan almonds got phased out in high school, I ended up working in a movie theater, which is still the best job I ever had. And yeah, just didn't pay that great but you know it's still still yeah the best job and so there we had raisinets and so the raisinets you would mix with the popcorn and that was that was the best popcorn's a fun one because there's so many different varieties right i was up visiting my family recently and my mom came out with this bag of popcorn that i'd never seen before and i was like what is this mom she's like
we call it crack. And I was like, what? And she goes, it's, it's like cheddar, white cheddar, like smart food kind of vibes with caramel, caramel popcorn together mix. And I was like, this sounds disgusting. And no, it's crack. It's, and I can't find it where I live. And so she's looking and she's going to send bags down for me at this point. And I'm like, I really don't need this in my life. This is just like one more processed food. I don't want, but like, yeah. Yeah. And then I know people who mix like jalapenos, like pickled jalapenos in their their popcorn. And that whole like spicy, salty thing.
Yeah, I could see it. I don't know if I'd be a fan and I can't do spicy food anymore, unfortunately. So sad and getting old. But yeah, I could see it, I guess. Place to try.
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