Kristin Demoranville

But generally speaking, you can duplicate the work. It's not like you're gonna reinvent the wheel every time. And I think that's what people get stressed about because supply chain in general is so daunting because you're looking at the whole supply chain. It's ginormous. You can't do that. You have to look at it and like, how does it affect me?

And I always tell people, get a whiteboard or something or a piece of paper. And literally draw like your facility in the middle and then figure out everything that's around it and then go after it one at a time, you know, and then if you can attack a couple at a time, great.

And I always tell people, get a whiteboard or something or a piece of paper. And literally draw like your facility in the middle and then figure out everything that's around it and then go after it one at a time, you know, and then if you can attack a couple at a time, great.

That's how you deal with supply chain, really, in like the most basic bare bones sense in terms of security and or management in general. Yeah. And I'm sure there's some supply chain people on the on that are listening to like. No, it's so much more complicated. No, it really isn't. Like it really is that much of a breakdown. You don't have to make it difficult. You're just making it difficult.

That's how you deal with supply chain, really, in like the most basic bare bones sense in terms of security and or management in general. Yeah. And I'm sure there's some supply chain people on the on that are listening to like. No, it's so much more complicated. No, it really isn't. Like it really is that much of a breakdown. You don't have to make it difficult. You're just making it difficult.

Don't make it difficult. You need to make it simple. And especially with the food industry that's running in a rapid rate, they're forecasted out. This is a lot of stuff going on. We're innovating. We're preparing for the future at all times. Nobody's got time to sit there and deal with the detailed daunting tasks. So if they can replicate it and do it faster, they will.

Don't make it difficult. You need to make it simple. And especially with the food industry that's running in a rapid rate, they're forecasted out. This is a lot of stuff going on. We're innovating. We're preparing for the future at all times. Nobody's got time to sit there and deal with the detailed daunting tasks. So if they can replicate it and do it faster, they will.

Or if they can automate it in some capacity, also will help. I mean, we have things like AI. I know open source is a scary thing, but that is going to help in this situation at some point, I'm sure, because it can analyze massive amounts of data, which a human being can't do. So...

Or if they can automate it in some capacity, also will help. I mean, we have things like AI. I know open source is a scary thing, but that is going to help in this situation at some point, I'm sure, because it can analyze massive amounts of data, which a human being can't do. So...

Mark, as I'm saying all that, I'm now wondering what does Manifest Cyber do in this world and how are you helping and get through this? Because clearly this is something that where everybody's going to probably either need help with or to scale up or if you're a small shop or even if you're a big shop, you're going to need a little support because again, like we said, can't boil the ocean.

Mark, as I'm saying all that, I'm now wondering what does Manifest Cyber do in this world and how are you helping and get through this? Because clearly this is something that where everybody's going to probably either need help with or to scale up or if you're a small shop or even if you're a big shop, you're going to need a little support because again, like we said, can't boil the ocean.

You can only make that cup of tea.

You can only make that cup of tea.

That's awesome.

That's awesome.

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And especially if you're doing food defense investigations or any type of food safety investigations, you will have probably at some point have to look at an SBOM just to understand what happened with the software if it ended up being some type of a cyber physical situation.