Kurt Mackey

I would certainly consider it if it was available. And if it was productized like the way the iPhone is available to everyone, I do understand that there is a subsidy there that carriers are playing. There's an underwriter that is essentially making it easier for me to consume.

I would certainly consider it if it was available. And if it was productized like the way the iPhone is available to everyone, I do understand that there is a subsidy there that carriers are playing. There's an underwriter that is essentially making it easier for me to consume.

I'm not sure if I would personally, but I know there's a, I would say a minority, but still very large market that pays attention to the latest capabilities of Apple's machines as a desktop.

I'm not sure if I would personally, but I know there's a, I would say a minority, but still very large market that pays attention to the latest capabilities of Apple's machines as a desktop.

And so I may not be personally, but I can appreciate it being available because there's people who really, every time there's the newest version of it, whatever the major advancement of it is, and it might be every two years, they're the ones buying it

And so I may not be personally, but I can appreciate it being available because there's people who really, every time there's the newest version of it, whatever the major advancement of it is, and it might be every two years, they're the ones buying it

But similar to the way you buy a car or a large liability that seems like an investment, which is what a machine – this computer is an investment because it makes you make money – But it's still a liability in the fact that it goes down in terms of its cost or its value to someone else.

But similar to the way you buy a car or a large liability that seems like an investment, which is what a machine – this computer is an investment because it makes you make money – But it's still a liability in the fact that it goes down in terms of its cost or its value to someone else.

So you may buy it for like three or four grand, which is a pretty good average for most decent MacBook Pros. Let's just say four grand, right? I buy it for four grand today at the latest gen price, and I want to recycle it two years from now. Apple doesn't have a program where I can just go and buy the new thing.

So you may buy it for like three or four grand, which is a pretty good average for most decent MacBook Pros. Let's just say four grand, right? I buy it for four grand today at the latest gen price, and I want to recycle it two years from now. Apple doesn't have a program where I can just go and buy the new thing.

They do have the trading program, but it's not predictable in terms of what I get back for today's investment. And I think that's what they've done well with the iPhone is that I know pretty much, well, if I'm on latest tech, I probably get 800 bucks-ish for my old tech to cycle out for the new tech. There's some rebate program out there.

They do have the trading program, but it's not predictable in terms of what I get back for today's investment. And I think that's what they've done well with the iPhone is that I know pretty much, well, if I'm on latest tech, I probably get 800 bucks-ish for my old tech to cycle out for the new tech. There's some rebate program out there.

Or just these programs you can pay for and just you never own it and you're always happy. Like the New World Order said, like the World Economic Forum said, you will own nothing and be happy about it. And I kind of feel like you're saying that with this stuff too. Like this Apple model of this is good. And I kind of hate that.

Or just these programs you can pay for and just you never own it and you're always happy. Like the New World Order said, like the World Economic Forum said, you will own nothing and be happy about it. And I kind of feel like you're saying that with this stuff too. Like this Apple model of this is good. And I kind of hate that.

I kind of like it as a consumer and the fact that I get access and this promised, predictable, priced-in access to latest tech. But then the other part of me is like, man, I'm renting everything I own. Everything I have has a subscription attached to it in some way, shape, or form. So every new dependency in my life...

I kind of like it as a consumer and the fact that I get access and this promised, predictable, priced-in access to latest tech. But then the other part of me is like, man, I'm renting everything I own. Everything I have has a subscription attached to it in some way, shape, or form. So every new dependency in my life...

whether it's food, a bed, and I won't name a name, or something else is reaching into my pocket with some subscription. And it's kind of essential to my life, personally or professionally.

whether it's food, a bed, and I won't name a name, or something else is reaching into my pocket with some subscription. And it's kind of essential to my life, personally or professionally.

You used a word earlier, I believe it was like circulatory or circular.

You used a word earlier, I believe it was like circulatory or circular.