Kurt Mackey

We can dream. Yeah, maybe. We can dream, right? What else, Jared? Anything left for this, friends?

We can dream. Yeah, maybe. We can dream, right? What else, Jared? Anything left for this, friends?

No, we got more tape. I got more tape for Plus Plus. We have a Plus Plus zone to our podcast. We're speaking about zones in the book. Yes. We have Plus Plus zone, which is... It's our performance zone. Yeah, there you go. Folks pay us... It's our members-only zone. They pay us to have a special feed that does not have ads. It's our subscription zone.

No, we got more tape. I got more tape for Plus Plus. We have a Plus Plus zone to our podcast. We're speaking about zones in the book. Yes. We have Plus Plus zone, which is... It's our performance zone. Yeah, there you go. Folks pay us... It's our members-only zone. They pay us to have a special feed that does not have ads. It's our subscription zone.

And then some of those people actually want a feed of ads, so I'm just really...

And then some of those people actually want a feed of ads, so I'm just really...

confused yeah i don't get it are they like awesome super bowl style ads are they like you know i don't want to toot my own horn but we do a pretty good job of producing ads okay and it's not the read it's not my radio voice it's not it's our ability to share the story of the brands who want to connect with their audience and tell that story and try to do our best to do that that's probably the easiest way i can say it there we go

confused yeah i don't get it are they like awesome super bowl style ads are they like you know i don't want to toot my own horn but we do a pretty good job of producing ads okay and it's not the read it's not my radio voice it's not it's our ability to share the story of the brands who want to connect with their audience and tell that story and try to do our best to do that that's probably the easiest way i can say it there we go

I think they're enjoyable. I like producing them. They're a lot of fun. And they're not just like, and this is brought to you by so-and-so. Go buy their thing at so-and-so.com. It's not like that. It's far more like, Zach, why did you do this? Why should our listeners care? And you tell them. And then we conversate about it. And it's like a segment of a podcast as an ad.

I think they're enjoyable. I like producing them. They're a lot of fun. And they're not just like, and this is brought to you by so-and-so. Go buy their thing at so-and-so.com. It's not like that. It's far more like, Zach, why did you do this? Why should our listeners care? And you tell them. And then we conversate about it. And it's like a segment of a podcast as an ad.

How cool, right?

How cool, right?

Oh, man. We'll take you into the zone here in just a second, if you don't mind.

Oh, man. We'll take you into the zone here in just a second, if you don't mind.

So, twist ending. While we were talking about the iPhone and the ubiquity of... It's better.

So, twist ending. While we were talking about the iPhone and the ubiquity of... It's better.

All right, so public clouds suck. I actually think most ways of hosting stuff on the internet sucks. And I have a lot of theories about why this is, but it almost doesn't matter. The reality is like I've built a new app for like generating sandwich recipes because my family's just into specific types of sandwiches that use Braunschweiger as a component, for example.

All right, so public clouds suck. I actually think most ways of hosting stuff on the internet sucks. And I have a lot of theories about why this is, but it almost doesn't matter. The reality is like I've built a new app for like generating sandwich recipes because my family's just into specific types of sandwiches that use Braunschweiger as a component, for example.

And then I want to like put that somewhere. You go to AWS and it's harder than just going and getting like a dedicated server from Headster. It's like, it's actually like more complicated to figure out how to deploy my dumb sandwich app on top of AWS because it's not built for me as a developer to be productive with. It's built for other people.

And then I want to like put that somewhere. You go to AWS and it's harder than just going and getting like a dedicated server from Headster. It's like, it's actually like more complicated to figure out how to deploy my dumb sandwich app on top of AWS because it's not built for me as a developer to be productive with. It's built for other people.