Kurt Mackey

So a lot of things go into it, but it's ultimately about, you know, the developers feel like they can actually make changes or are they just, you know, duct taping things and hoping that it works when they deploy it.

So a lot of things go into it, but it's ultimately about, you know, the developers feel like they can actually make changes or are they just, you know, duct taping things and hoping that it works when they deploy it.

Documentation, right? So just if you're modifying code, can you even understand how that code works so you're confident in changing that little bit of code, right? So yeah, a lot of things. All these factors interrelate, right? Even something like batch size, which is about incremental delivery. Like if you're working on huge changes, huge PRs, there's so much more risk, right?

Documentation, right? So just if you're modifying code, can you even understand how that code works so you're confident in changing that little bit of code, right? So yeah, a lot of things. All these factors interrelate, right? Even something like batch size, which is about incremental delivery. Like if you're working on huge changes, huge PRs, there's so much more risk, right?

You just have a lot more surface area. So if you're delivering incrementally, your confidence is going to be higher for each unit of change, right?

You just have a lot more surface area. So if you're delivering incrementally, your confidence is going to be higher for each unit of change, right?

It's been in the works for a while. DXI is one of the big things. The other is the Core 4, which is the other. If you go to that research tab.

It's been in the works for a while. DXI is one of the big things. The other is the Core 4, which is the other. If you go to that research tab.

DX Core 4. Yeah. So if you go to that research tab on our website, there's the developer experience index. And above it, the DX Core 4 is something else we've been developing.

DX Core 4. Yeah. So if you go to that research tab on our website, there's the developer experience index. And above it, the DX Core 4 is something else we've been developing.

So that's the outcome of this. But the real problem we've been trying to solve is, I think last year I came on here, Adam, and we talked about the DevEx framework I'd published with Nicole Forsgren and others. And so ever since we published that, people have been coming to us and saying, hey, like,

So that's the outcome of this. But the real problem we've been trying to solve is, I think last year I came on here, Adam, and we talked about the DevEx framework I'd published with Nicole Forsgren and others. And so ever since we published that, people have been coming to us and saying, hey, like,

Nicole created Dora, Nicole and Margaret created the space framework, and then you, Nicole and Margaret created the DevEx framework. We have three frameworks now for telling us what we're supposed to be measuring in our organizations. How do we actually, so what, to sum it all up, like what should we actually be measuring? And the funny, I was just talking.

Nicole created Dora, Nicole and Margaret created the space framework, and then you, Nicole and Margaret created the DevEx framework. We have three frameworks now for telling us what we're supposed to be measuring in our organizations. How do we actually, so what, to sum it all up, like what should we actually be measuring? And the funny, I was just talking.

This is the one to rule them all. This is the one framework to rule them all because... Replace the other three. Not replace. This encapsulates all of them. This combines them all into one framework because... Yeah, everyone would ask us that question. And the way we would always answer that question was, well, it depends.

This is the one to rule them all. This is the one framework to rule them all because... Replace the other three. Not replace. This encapsulates all of them. This combines them all into one framework because... Yeah, everyone would ask us that question. And the way we would always answer that question was, well, it depends.

I was just talking to a CEO at a big tech company who said, I was talking to Nicole. And I asked her, to sum it all up, what should we measure? And she told me, it sort of depends. And I get that it's situationally dependent, but it would be really valuable to have something out of the box and standardized that we could benchmark across other companies and

I was just talking to a CEO at a big tech company who said, I was talking to Nicole. And I asked her, to sum it all up, what should we measure? And she told me, it sort of depends. And I get that it's situationally dependent, but it would be really valuable to have something out of the box and standardized that we could benchmark across other companies and

really have a way forward so and funny enough i've had that same experience i was talking to a cto actually a capital one who asked me hey i've been following your research for two years so just tell me what should we actually measure and i said uh We can, you know, we can do a consulting engagement on that to like figure it out.

really have a way forward so and funny enough i've had that same experience i was talking to a cto actually a capital one who asked me hey i've been following your research for two years so just tell me what should we actually measure and i said uh We can, you know, we can do a consulting engagement on that to like figure it out.