Kurtis Conner

And dude, the finger hold. That is, dude, they're so, this is so funny, dude. Because, like, that's the thing, like, there is no other way to respond to that. Fucking tell me if I'm out of line here as well. Because, like she says at the end, you know, she's in queer media and stuff. And I'm a fucking straight white guy, so I don't want to be, I don't want to be like, this is dumb.

And dude, the finger hold. That is, dude, they're so, this is so funny, dude. Because, like, that's the thing, like, there is no other way to respond to that. Fucking tell me if I'm out of line here as well. Because, like she says at the end, you know, she's in queer media and stuff. And I'm a fucking straight white guy, so I don't want to be, I don't want to be like, this is dumb.

Because, like, maybe I just don't know. And, you know, sometimes that happens. But, like, how would you respond to that? I think they both killed it, right? I think Cynthia was like, I don't know that was happening, but that's great. That's what I wanted. I want people to, you know, feel the lyrics, listen to them, right? And then Ariana Grande's like, yeah, I'm here for you, dude.

Because, like, maybe I just don't know. And, you know, sometimes that happens. But, like, how would you respond to that? I think they both killed it, right? I think Cynthia was like, I don't know that was happening, but that's great. That's what I wanted. I want people to, you know, feel the lyrics, listen to them, right? And then Ariana Grande's like, yeah, I'm here for you, dude.

Give me that finger. Give me your finger. Let me hold on to it.

Give me that finger. Give me your finger. Let me hold on to it.

And then you could tell, because Cynthia, she keeps being like, dude, I'm sorry for this fucking play-by-play, but it's so funny that she's like, I don't know what's happening. She's making it seem like it's a huge viral thing of people holding space for these lyrics, right? Um... And then she, so she says it like two or three times. Like, I don't know if this is happening.

And then you could tell, because Cynthia, she keeps being like, dude, I'm sorry for this fucking play-by-play, but it's so funny that she's like, I don't know what's happening. She's making it seem like it's a huge viral thing of people holding space for these lyrics, right? Um... And then she, so she says it like two or three times. Like, I don't know if this is happening.

And then you can tell the interviewers like, well, I mean, like I've seen it. I don't know if it's viral. Sorry to give you the wrong idea, but I've seen it.

And then you can tell the interviewers like, well, I mean, like I've seen it. I don't know if it's viral. Sorry to give you the wrong idea, but I've seen it.

That's really cool, dude. Incredible video, dude. Holding space. For these lyrics. I hope y'all are holding space with this podcast, man. I really do. This is a safe space that we can, for me anyway. Well, I mean, you can too. I can say, you know, this is a safe space for me to goof around, sort of make jokes and stuff. And I hope this is a safe space for you as well.

That's really cool, dude. Incredible video, dude. Holding space. For these lyrics. I hope y'all are holding space with this podcast, man. I really do. This is a safe space that we can, for me anyway. Well, I mean, you can too. I can say, you know, this is a safe space for me to goof around, sort of make jokes and stuff. And I hope this is a safe space for you as well.

You can sort of goof around and make jokes. You can also talk at me. I hope this is a conversation. I hope this podcast isn't just you listening. I hope this is also you giving your responses to everything I say. And not in the comments or anything. I want you to verbally say them. But they actually did an interview with the journalist.

You can sort of goof around and make jokes. You can also talk at me. I hope this is a conversation. I hope this podcast isn't just you listening. I hope this is also you giving your responses to everything I say. And not in the comments or anything. I want you to verbally say them. But they actually did an interview with the journalist.

And I would love to go through this because I actually haven't read this yet, so I'm really curious. Yeah, let's see what... Users on X and TikTok ran wild with the footage, though. Gil Cray said it really didn't take off until last week. Some of them spoke in front of the deep sincerity of the exchange, which contained little information, but somehow wildly resonated with the stars. Um... Yeah.

And I would love to go through this because I actually haven't read this yet, so I'm really curious. Yeah, let's see what... Users on X and TikTok ran wild with the footage, though. Gil Cray said it really didn't take off until last week. Some of them spoke in front of the deep sincerity of the exchange, which contained little information, but somehow wildly resonated with the stars. Um... Yeah.

Okay, so what is holding space? Why has this moment captivated? All right. Tell me about the day of the junket. Did you have any concept of what this would become? I just did what I do going in and doing an interview. I tend to be that person who goes in and asks a socially relevant question or perhaps more serious than most. Mind you, this interview happened a day and a half after the election.

Okay, so what is holding space? Why has this moment captivated? All right. Tell me about the day of the junket. Did you have any concept of what this would become? I just did what I do going in and doing an interview. I tend to be that person who goes in and asks a socially relevant question or perhaps more serious than most. Mind you, this interview happened a day and a half after the election.

I'd interviewed Cynthia before, so I went in very sincerely. Okay. I want to see what she thinks. Okay. How would you define holding space? This is it from the actual journalist. I was very inspired by Tony Morrison from GLAAD. He posted lyrics to Defying Gravity before I did my interview. It was a great explainer.

I'd interviewed Cynthia before, so I went in very sincerely. Okay. I want to see what she thinks. Okay. How would you define holding space? This is it from the actual journalist. I was very inspired by Tony Morrison from GLAAD. He posted lyrics to Defying Gravity before I did my interview. It was a great explainer.