Kyle Brandt

It's like the happiest he's ever been in his life. And I mean, I mean like in all different ways.

It's like the happiest he's ever been in his life. And I mean, I mean like in all different ways.

A little bit. Yeah. It's funny to think about it. Like, can you even remember the last Bills loss? It's been so long before the Rams game.

A little bit. Yeah. It's funny to think about it. Like, can you even remember the last Bills loss? It's been so long before the Rams game.

They lost to the Texans that night. And the take was like, wow, Diggs got over on the Bills. And there was this viral moment of Diggs, like, side-eyeing him. And we haven't heard from Diggs since he got hurt. And Allen's taken over the world. But loves his offensive coordinator. Never more comfortable. Loves the guys in the room. And I don't think this is irrelevant. Like...

They lost to the Texans that night. And the take was like, wow, Diggs got over on the Bills. And there was this viral moment of Diggs, like, side-eyeing him. And we haven't heard from Diggs since he got hurt. And Allen's taken over the world. But loves his offensive coordinator. Never more comfortable. Loves the guys in the room. And I don't think this is irrelevant. Like...

he's engaged to a movie star and a pop star and his personal life is out of control, like over the hill, over the moon, amazing. And he has a good run game and a good offensive line. Like, what do you want as a quarterback? My line's awesome. My running backs are awesome. I have like a really cool girl that I'm with and like my receivers are cool guys.

he's engaged to a movie star and a pop star and his personal life is out of control, like over the hill, over the moon, amazing. And he has a good run game and a good offensive line. Like, what do you want as a quarterback? My line's awesome. My running backs are awesome. I have like a really cool girl that I'm with and like my receivers are cool guys.

And I know they're not Calvin Johnson, but like they make plays for me. I think he's so happy and so confident. I think it's great.

And I know they're not Calvin Johnson, but like they make plays for me. I think he's so happy and so confident. I think it's great.

I think he did. Yeah.

I think he did. Yeah.

In a regular year, Lamar, there's Lamar fatigue. He's already got it a couple of times. Yeah. And I, listen, I was, I want Saquon to win a batter. Just be cool. he would have to have the perfect campaign. Like, he'd have to break the Dixon record. He'd have to have the touchdown, everything. Allen just took it away. I'm not sure it can be Saquon. Oh, really?

In a regular year, Lamar, there's Lamar fatigue. He's already got it a couple of times. Yeah. And I, listen, I was, I want Saquon to win a batter. Just be cool. he would have to have the perfect campaign. Like, he'd have to break the Dixon record. He'd have to have the touchdown, everything. Allen just took it away. I'm not sure it can be Saquon. Oh, really?

But I think as the Allen thing, especially as it pertains to Mahom, my concern is that that Rams game 20 years from now when, like, you tell your kids, your grandkids about Josh Allen, like, that's the Josh Allen experience. He's unbelievably cool superhero action star and the Bills lose.

But I think as the Allen thing, especially as it pertains to Mahom, my concern is that that Rams game 20 years from now when, like, you tell your kids, your grandkids about Josh Allen, like, that's the Josh Allen experience. He's unbelievably cool superhero action star and the Bills lose.

What are you doing? Like, is he... I just worry that he's... like Dominique Wilkins or something. Like, it's just so awesome. Incredible talent. What did it amount to? He's even said it. He's like, he said it. I'm sick of winning t-shirts. He has a whole stack of t-shirts that are like division champ t-shirts. And he's like, I want to get them out of my closet. I don't want these anymore.

What are you doing? Like, is he... I just worry that he's... like Dominique Wilkins or something. Like, it's just so awesome. Incredible talent. What did it amount to? He's even said it. He's like, he said it. I'm sick of winning t-shirts. He has a whole stack of t-shirts that are like division champ t-shirts. And he's like, I want to get them out of my closet. I don't want these anymore.

That's what he's known for at this point. Because if they lose in the playoffs, if they lose in the playoff this year to the Chiefs, What do you think if you're a Bills fan? Like this Chiefs team sucks. We can't even beat this one.

That's what he's known for at this point. Because if they lose in the playoffs, if they lose in the playoff this year to the Chiefs, What do you think if you're a Bills fan? Like this Chiefs team sucks. We can't even beat this one.

It's a big playoff.

It's a big playoff.

Marlon Jackson interception sealed it. And it was like, holy shit, they beat Brady. And this is my test for the Chiefs right now. So we're picking away at all of them, and they barely win, and all their numbers are terrible, and the offense looks legitimately bad except for one drive every game. Let's say they get the one seed. They get the bye.

Marlon Jackson interception sealed it. And it was like, holy shit, they beat Brady. And this is my test for the Chiefs right now. So we're picking away at all of them, and they barely win, and all their numbers are terrible, and the offense looks legitimately bad except for one drive every game. Let's say they get the one seed. They get the bye.

The division round, you're watching on your couch, and the Chiefs lose to Pittsburgh or Baltimore or Houston or somebody like that. Are you surprised? Because I'm shocked. I'll fall off my chair if they lose the division round, even as bad as they've been. That's my respect for them. I agree completely.

The division round, you're watching on your couch, and the Chiefs lose to Pittsburgh or Baltimore or Houston or somebody like that. Are you surprised? Because I'm shocked. I'll fall off my chair if they lose the division round, even as bad as they've been. That's my respect for them. I agree completely.

Yeah, the Raiders killed them on Christmas. Yes, it was like a super weird year.

Yeah, the Raiders killed them on Christmas. Yes, it was like a super weird year.

Yes.

Yes.

Without their best running back.

Without their best running back.

Yeah, I mean, the Chargers are built like Michigan.

Yeah, I mean, the Chargers are built like Michigan.

No, definitely. I think the Chargers are going to win a playoff game. I like them still. I'm not jumping ship on the Chargers.

No, definitely. I think the Chargers are going to win a playoff game. I like them still. I'm not jumping ship on the Chargers.

Without the best receiver, without the best running back, they play great defense.

Without the best receiver, without the best running back, they play great defense.

Yeah. And I don't like that match. I don't like the Chargers. But the distinction, I think, with the Chiefs' weapons, it's like, I think there's having players that are just kind of average players But then there's having players who are just kind of average the way they're playing who are made guys. Like Jandre Hopkins and Kelsey, even Juju.

Yeah. And I don't like that match. I don't like the Chargers. But the distinction, I think, with the Chiefs' weapons, it's like, I think there's having players that are just kind of average players But then there's having players who are just kind of average the way they're playing who are made guys. Like Jandre Hopkins and Kelsey, even Juju.

Those are guys who have been around, who've been in playoff games. Those are the guys who are like, oh, shit, we turned on the division run. Kelsey had nine catches and two touchdowns. They've done it. It's not average players who just suck and have never done it. These guys are all a friend of ours. You know what I mean? They can turn it on.

Those are guys who have been around, who've been in playoff games. Those are the guys who are like, oh, shit, we turned on the division run. Kelsey had nine catches and two touchdowns. They've done it. It's not average players who just suck and have never done it. These guys are all a friend of ours. You know what I mean? They can turn it on.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, okay.

Yeah, okay.

You get it. Like you have this big play. Yeah, big defensive play. And then Jesus Christ, Nakua and Cooper were just doing anything they wanted.

You get it. Like you have this big play. Yeah, big defensive play. And then Jesus Christ, Nakua and Cooper were just doing anything they wanted.

They thought that, okay, so Matt Milano's back now. He was the heart and soul of their defense. He's back there going to stop it. And Terrell Bernard's amazing in the middle. But they did this Blake Corum thing that we haven't seen a lot of them this year. And then, obviously, Kyron. I have a little bit of a spicy take on the Bills-Rams thing is, I actually think that loss was good for the Bills.

They thought that, okay, so Matt Milano's back now. He was the heart and soul of their defense. He's back there going to stop it. And Terrell Bernard's amazing in the middle. But they did this Blake Corum thing that we haven't seen a lot of them this year. And then, obviously, Kyron. I have a little bit of a spicy take on the Bills-Rams thing is, I actually think that loss was good for the Bills.

And I'll tell you why. Everybody was just on their nuts across the whole country because they did a lateral play and they won in the snow and they're the best team ever. They go across the country, they get their ass whipped a little bit. Now they play the Lions, which is one of the biggest games of the regular season. I think they need to have their shit humbled a little bit. Just a little bit.

And I'll tell you why. Everybody was just on their nuts across the whole country because they did a lateral play and they won in the snow and they're the best team ever. They go across the country, they get their ass whipped a little bit. Now they play the Lions, which is one of the biggest games of the regular season. I think they need to have their shit humbled a little bit. Just a little bit.

They were such a darling for about... three or four days, and then they weren't that good. And I think that get that loss out of the way now maybe and have a little bit of a wake-up call. I actually was not shocked that they lost that game because McVay is amazing. And when Cup and Nakua are out there for the Rams this year, the Rams are 6-2. Like, they're a very, very good team.

They were such a darling for about... three or four days, and then they weren't that good. And I think that get that loss out of the way now maybe and have a little bit of a wake-up call. I actually was not shocked that they lost that game because McVay is amazing. And when Cup and Nakua are out there for the Rams this year, the Rams are 6-2. Like, they're a very, very good team.

And their defense is, like, super young, super doesn't give a crap. I'll hit Josh Allen late, talk shit to him, don't care.

And their defense is, like, super young, super doesn't give a crap. I'll hit Josh Allen late, talk shit to him, don't care.

like the Rams are if I had to pick a team that holy shit a team that's in the Super Bowl I'd pick the Rams as like the holy shit team your holy shit team my holy shit team is the Rams like that is a dark horse Cinderella all that like they have the quarterback I think they have the best coach in football and they have this crazy young defense who doesn't know they're not supposed to be that good yet they're my holy shit Super Bowl team I think the holy shit team has to be AFC

like the Rams are if I had to pick a team that holy shit a team that's in the Super Bowl I'd pick the Rams as like the holy shit team your holy shit team my holy shit team is the Rams like that is a dark horse Cinderella all that like they have the quarterback I think they have the best coach in football and they have this crazy young defense who doesn't know they're not supposed to be that good yet they're my holy shit Super Bowl team I think the holy shit team has to be AFC

But I think... Like the Chargers would be a holy shit.

But I think... Like the Chargers would be a holy shit.

I don't even know if they expected this.

I don't even know if they expected this.

I really do think it was, all right, this will be a year and we'll lose in the wild card or whatever. But just Allen's been that good and defense has been that good. Can I give you like a surprise disgruntled team right now? I'm kind of with you, like I have a couple friends And they're Philly guys. And they're like beside themselves right now. They hate this team.

I really do think it was, all right, this will be a year and we'll lose in the wild card or whatever. But just Allen's been that good and defense has been that good. Can I give you like a surprise disgruntled team right now? I'm kind of with you, like I have a couple friends And they're Philly guys. And they're like beside themselves right now. They hate this team.

They're like, we're going to lose. We're going to go one and done. They're panicking.

They're like, we're going to lose. We're going to go one and done. They're panicking.

The Eagles have won nine in a row. And they're like, nope. Hurts doesn't have it. Their kicker keeps missing. That freaks people out. He can't make one from 50 plus. He hasn't made one all year. After this game, this last game, the problem is, all right, they barely beat the Panthers. And people have to update their expectations of the Panthers. The Panthers aren't the Panthers of September.

The Eagles have won nine in a row. And they're like, nope. Hurts doesn't have it. Their kicker keeps missing. That freaks people out. He can't make one from 50 plus. He hasn't made one all year. After this game, this last game, the problem is, all right, they barely beat the Panthers. And people have to update their expectations of the Panthers. The Panthers aren't the Panthers of September.

They're actually kind of good.

They're actually kind of good.

Like they almost beat the Chiefs.

Like they almost beat the Chiefs.

And so Eagles fans are like, we suck. First of all, the Panthers are pretty good. But then right after the game, A.J. Brown, after a win, the ninth in a row, they're like, A.J., what do you think you need to work on? He's like, passing. You got to get better at passing. Jesus, AJ, you won nine in a row. Like there's some issues with Hurts.

And so Eagles fans are like, we suck. First of all, the Panthers are pretty good. But then right after the game, A.J. Brown, after a win, the ninth in a row, they're like, A.J., what do you think you need to work on? He's like, passing. You got to get better at passing. Jesus, AJ, you won nine in a row. Like there's some issues with Hurts.

And I think there's Eagles fans still don't totally believe in him. Just my friends. I think he's a really good player, but there's my friends.

And I think there's Eagles fans still don't totally believe in him. Just my friends. I think he's a really good player, but there's my friends.

So coach and quarterback. And also I think AJ Brown is like, I'm tired of the Saquon shit. Like, we passed the ball the least in the whole team. They're ranked last in the league in pass attempts. They run it. They have an MVP running back. I don't know if he's liking that either. This reminds me of, I was talking to an MVP. There's nine in a row they've won, and they're like, they're pissed.

So coach and quarterback. And also I think AJ Brown is like, I'm tired of the Saquon shit. Like, we passed the ball the least in the whole team. They're ranked last in the league in pass attempts. They run it. They have an MVP running back. I don't know if he's liking that either. This reminds me of, I was talking to an MVP. There's nine in a row they've won, and they're like, they're pissed.

So A.J. Brown's like, enough with the backwards hurdle. We get it. Enough with the sequence shit. Enough with the tush push.

So A.J. Brown's like, enough with the backwards hurdle. We get it. Enough with the sequence shit. Enough with the tush push.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Jefferson always seems pretty gruntled. Even when he wasn't putting up numbers. Yeah, he seemed happy for Addison. Huge contract. Huge. Plays indoors. Like, everybody loves him. I think Jefferson's gruntled.

Jefferson always seems pretty gruntled. Even when he wasn't putting up numbers. Yeah, he seemed happy for Addison. Huge contract. Huge. Plays indoors. Like, everybody loves him. I think Jefferson's gruntled.

It's nuts. So my background in Sam Darnold is, okay, was supposed to be the number one overall pick, fell a little bit, Baker rises up and steal it. From that point, every single coach slash guru, all the McVeighs and Shanahan's and like Jordan Palmer types, they all swear that Sam's the man. Oh, Darnold's incredible. Darnold's got it.

It's nuts. So my background in Sam Darnold is, okay, was supposed to be the number one overall pick, fell a little bit, Baker rises up and steal it. From that point, every single coach slash guru, all the McVeighs and Shanahan's and like Jordan Palmer types, they all swear that Sam's the man. Oh, Darnold's incredible. Darnold's got it.

And as a fan, you're like, he mostly sucks every time we see him. It just feels like when somebody keeps recommending this show, you got to watch this show. It's so good. It's so good. And you're like, it's not that good. They're like, watch another episode. I promise.

And as a fan, you're like, he mostly sucks every time we see him. It just feels like when somebody keeps recommending this show, you got to watch this show. It's so good. It's so good. And you're like, it's not that good. They're like, watch another episode. I promise.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The show is finally amazing. And all those coaches were like, he's amazing. And yet. They may just cut Bateman this year.

The show is finally amazing. And all those coaches were like, he's amazing. And yet. They may just cut Bateman this year.

I don't know where he was. Top ten.

I don't know where he was. Top ten.

But you loved him.

But you loved him.

They were good early. Listen, same organization, Vikings, a few years back. They're in the NFC title game. Their quarterback is Case Keenum. Right. Killing it. Making miracles to Stephon Diggs. Like, oh my God, Keenum. Yeah. Moved on. Went to Cousins. It was the right move.

They were good early. Listen, same organization, Vikings, a few years back. They're in the NFC title game. Their quarterback is Case Keenum. Right. Killing it. Making miracles to Stephon Diggs. Like, oh my God, Keenum. Yeah. Moved on. Went to Cousins. It was the right move.

Also, he doesn't say shit. He's a model citizen. Great reputation.

Also, he doesn't say shit. He's a model citizen. Great reputation.

The take is very insulting to him. Here's the take. Okay. You have Jefferson and Addison and Aaron Jones and Hawkinson and KOC is your coach. of course you're succeeding. Right. It's the Brock Purdy. We can put somebody in there. It's the Brock Purdy.

The take is very insulting to him. Here's the take. Okay. You have Jefferson and Addison and Aaron Jones and Hawkinson and KOC is your coach. of course you're succeeding. Right. It's the Brock Purdy. We can put somebody in there. It's the Brock Purdy.

It's going to happen. And we've seen, Cousins won 11 and one. as a Vikings quarterback. And they won every, and they got to the plate and they lost to Daniel Jones. So that's part of the reason why everyone's like, I don't know, Darnold, I feel like we've seen this shit before.

It's going to happen. And we've seen, Cousins won 11 and one. as a Vikings quarterback. And they won every, and they got to the plate and they lost to Daniel Jones. So that's part of the reason why everyone's like, I don't know, Darnold, I feel like we've seen this shit before.

That's why you're saying no matter how much they win, you don't believe in them because we could look up and they lose in the wildcard round.

That's why you're saying no matter how much they win, you don't believe in them because we could look up and they lose in the wildcard round.

Yeah. To your point, though, let's say the Vikings are like, we love Sam, but we have a very bright future for JJ. We want to be in bench. What is the line that the Vikings get to where they're like, well, we're in the Super Bowl. We can't get rid of Sam Darnold now. Do they have to win it? I think you have to get to the Super Bowl. Because already, Case Keenum was in the title game with them.

Yeah. To your point, though, let's say the Vikings are like, we love Sam, but we have a very bright future for JJ. We want to be in bench. What is the line that the Vikings get to where they're like, well, we're in the Super Bowl. We can't get rid of Sam Darnold now. Do they have to win it? I think you have to get to the Super Bowl. Because already, Case Keenum was in the title game with them.

They've already been that a few years ago. I think if he gets to the Super Bowl, I guess you're coming back.

They've already been that a few years ago. I think if he gets to the Super Bowl, I guess you're coming back.

Those three teams in the North. They're 28-3 outside of the North. They beat everybody.

Those three teams in the North. They're 28-3 outside of the North. They beat everybody.

They're up there. I think they're all top five teams. Who knows? They're 28-3 when they're not playing each other. So they kick the shit out of everybody. I think the Lions' defense reputation is down right now because of what we just saw. I think they'll be better. I think they'll be back. I still think they're going to win the Super Bowl. I still think it's the Lions.

They're up there. I think they're all top five teams. Who knows? They're 28-3 when they're not playing each other. So they kick the shit out of everybody. I think the Lions' defense reputation is down right now because of what we just saw. I think they'll be better. I think they'll be back. I still think they're going to win the Super Bowl. I still think it's the Lions.

Lions over Pittsburgh, you think, maybe? Or Chiefs?

Lions over Pittsburgh, you think, maybe? Or Chiefs?

Well, yeah.

Well, yeah.

Where are you at with Russ? Isn't this weird for you to be saying that?

Where are you at with Russ? Isn't this weird for you to be saying that?

Have you done the Russ pop culture comp? Like what this is? because like I was doing it the other day with Peter. I think it's, it's, it's Travolta. And the comeback Seattle was all of the seventies and eighties. And he's a superstar. He's the coolest rockstar ever. Denver was look, who's talking. It's pathetic. And then like four and two, Mike Tomlin put them in and it was just Pulp Fiction.

Have you done the Russ pop culture comp? Like what this is? because like I was doing it the other day with Peter. I think it's, it's, it's Travolta. And the comeback Seattle was all of the seventies and eighties. And he's a superstar. He's the coolest rockstar ever. Denver was look, who's talking. It's pathetic. And then like four and two, Mike Tomlin put them in and it was just Pulp Fiction.

And like, he's like the coolest guy ever now and can't miss. It's an amazing.

And like, he's like the coolest guy ever now and can't miss. It's an amazing.

You go, you go Lady Gaga. Yeah.

You go, you go Lady Gaga. Yeah.

That's big. That's the 4-2 Pittsburgh.

That's big. That's the 4-2 Pittsburgh.

I always would think that Tomlin wouldn't be here for the Russ theatrics that we used to see. Tomlin's good at that. He seems so affected.

I always would think that Tomlin wouldn't be here for the Russ theatrics that we used to see. Tomlin's good at that. He seems so affected.

Yeah. And Fryermuth. They're really good. They're an amazing team. The Russ thing, you see comebacks. They suck. You never see when someone's a superstar... then sucks, and then is a superstar again. The only ones I can think of are Kurt Warner, who went St.

Yeah. And Fryermuth. They're really good. They're an amazing team. The Russ thing, you see comebacks. They suck. You never see when someone's a superstar... then sucks, and then is a superstar again. The only ones I can think of are Kurt Warner, who went St.

And then the Giants, who was just weird, and then Arizona to the Super Bowl again. And then even a slightly less version of that, Carson Palmer was with the Bengals. He was with the Raiders, and I don't even remember that. And then he was with Arizona and was also in a title game. But the good shit and then good again is really hard to pull off.

And then the Giants, who was just weird, and then Arizona to the Super Bowl again. And then even a slightly less version of that, Carson Palmer was with the Bengals. He was with the Raiders, and I don't even remember that. And then he was with Arizona and was also in a title game. But the good shit and then good again is really hard to pull off.

We also might get Pittsburgh Denver in the playoffs. That'd be pretty fun.

We also might get Pittsburgh Denver in the playoffs. That'd be pretty fun.

Coaches and quarterbacks. When we do playoff picks to start the season, about four years ago, I learned this. I always pick Pittsburgh no matter what. Picked them this year to make the playoffs. And everyone's like, you're an idiot. They have no quarterback. I'm like, I know, but just always pick Pittsburgh. They get in the playoffs, always. And I pick McVay now too every year, the Rams.

Coaches and quarterbacks. When we do playoff picks to start the season, about four years ago, I learned this. I always pick Pittsburgh no matter what. Picked them this year to make the playoffs. And everyone's like, you're an idiot. They have no quarterback. I'm like, I know, but just always pick Pittsburgh. They get in the playoffs, always. And I pick McVay now too every year, the Rams.

That was another one.

That was another one.

Who did I say? The Rams.

Who did I say? The Rams.

Holy shit, this team is in the Super Bowl.

Holy shit, this team is in the Super Bowl.

I hate the Texans. No, they're not good. The Texans are definitely going to play a Saturday playoff game like they always do. And it'll be like one o'clock.

I hate the Texans. No, they're not good. The Texans are definitely going to play a Saturday playoff game like they always do. And it'll be like one o'clock.

The Caleb moment?

The Caleb moment?

Houston's just dog shit on this.

Houston's just dog shit on this.

Oh, another third and 10 in Houston. Great.

Oh, another third and 10 in Houston. Great.

Isn't it crazy we've talked to playoffs this long, we haven't even mentioned the Ravens? Well, because we know they're going to be there. I know, but what are they going to do when they get there? Like, I don't have them in the Super Bowl. Does anybody? Their stock's low now.

Isn't it crazy we've talked to playoffs this long, we haven't even mentioned the Ravens? Well, because we know they're going to be there. I know, but what are they going to do when they get there? Like, I don't have them in the Super Bowl. Does anybody? Their stock's low now.

Lamar media is weird.

Lamar media is weird.

Dolphins fans are frosty, for sure.

Dolphins fans are frosty, for sure.

It's also one of the most unusual fantasy seasons in history because of what happened with McCaffrey. That was so strange.

It's also one of the most unusual fantasy seasons in history because of what happened with McCaffrey. That was so strange.

That's why you play fantasy because of that Allen game against the Rams.

That's why you play fantasy because of that Allen game against the Rams.

I think the Jets fans are a little in shock. Whereas the Giants fans are like, I don't know. Like when I run into people on the street and they're like, oh, you're on the football show. And I go, yeah. And the thing I always say to them, wherever I am, I'm like, oh, who's your team? Cowboys, Texans. The Giants fans always go... Like, they're so apologetic.

I think the Jets fans are a little in shock. Whereas the Giants fans are like, I don't know. Like when I run into people on the street and they're like, oh, you're on the football show. And I go, yeah. And the thing I always say to them, wherever I am, I'm like, oh, who's your team? Cowboys, Texans. The Giants fans always go... Like, they're so apologetic.

Oh, no. Our show that we do on NFL Network started in 2016. Every single year, the Jets and Giants have sucked. They've always sucked. The only one that didn't suck was the Giants team when they went on the boat with the Odell thing. Like, that's the only glimpse.

Oh, no. Our show that we do on NFL Network started in 2016. Every single year, the Jets and Giants have sucked. They've always sucked. The only one that didn't suck was the Giants team when they went on the boat with the Odell thing. Like, that's the only glimpse.

That was a fever dream.

That was a fever dream.

But so I think the Giants fans are like, we know we're terrible and we're embarrassed. I think the Jets fans were like, they bought some lottery tickets and before they won it, they like put a down payment on a mansion and a boat and they're like, I'm going to win this shit. And then match one number on their lottery ticket.

But so I think the Giants fans are like, we know we're terrible and we're embarrassed. I think the Jets fans were like, they bought some lottery tickets and before they won it, they like put a down payment on a mansion and a boat and they're like, I'm going to win this shit. And then match one number on their lottery ticket.

And I think, so I think they're like, their mental health is in question and they're in shock. It sucks.

And I think, so I think they're like, their mental health is in question and they're in shock. It sucks.

We're winning this year. We've got a great rotation.

We're winning this year. We've got a great rotation.

The one he keeps retweeting about. It was the day the Jets Niners were going to play. I love it. I just want to go on record. I think this will be a complete disaster. Everyone will be fired and Rodgers will retire. And he's probably going to be right. The Jets season. It might have been the last great tweet. It was a great tweet. We talked about that on our show.

The one he keeps retweeting about. It was the day the Jets Niners were going to play. I love it. I just want to go on record. I think this will be a complete disaster. Everyone will be fired and Rodgers will retire. And he's probably going to be right. The Jets season. It might have been the last great tweet. It was a great tweet. We talked about that on our show.

We even brought up Fennessey's tweet. But this season for the Jets is not like a D or a D. It is an F. It is as bad as it could go. Short of like a tragedy happened off the field.

We even brought up Fennessey's tweet. But this season for the Jets is not like a D or a D. It is an F. It is as bad as it could go. Short of like a tragedy happened off the field.

Oh, just as a whole?

Oh, just as a whole?

I think it's like a B-plus because we have just some really good teams. Like I mentioned, that thing in the NFC North is fun. That Bills-Rams game we just watched was amazing. that Lions game against the Packers was 34-31. Like we've got some Rembrandts. We've got some, like when you say, what was the game of the year? We have like eight or nine games of the year.

I think it's like a B-plus because we have just some really good teams. Like I mentioned, that thing in the NFC North is fun. That Bills-Rams game we just watched was amazing. that Lions game against the Packers was 34-31. Like we've got some Rembrandts. We've got some, like when you say, what was the game of the year? We have like eight or nine games of the year.

And I like that the quarterbacks aren't hurt.

And I like that the quarterbacks aren't hurt.

That's really what I care about. Allen's out there. Mahomes out there. Even Burrow on a losing team. You get to watch those guys. You don't have to turn on the Thursday nighter and it's Taylor Heineke versus Mitch Trubisky.

That's really what I care about. Allen's out there. Mahomes out there. Even Burrow on a losing team. You get to watch those guys. You don't have to turn on the Thursday nighter and it's Taylor Heineke versus Mitch Trubisky.

We lost Aiden, but I heard it's not as bad as we thought.

We lost Aiden, but I heard it's not as bad as we thought.

All you care about is you got a guy.

All you care about is you got a guy.

Well, I can't believe I did the B plus then without mentioning it. I mean, I think like they are huge. There's two massive blemishes on the season. The Jets, just complete disaster. And the Bears. I mean, the Bears are a massive disappointment from start to finish. If the Jets are an F, the Bears are a D plus.

Well, I can't believe I did the B plus then without mentioning it. I mean, I think like they are huge. There's two massive blemishes on the season. The Jets, just complete disaster. And the Bears. I mean, the Bears are a massive disappointment from start to finish. If the Jets are an F, the Bears are a D plus.

You're supposed to get the bump. The Saints got the bump with that guy. The clogger bumped you back. That Niners-Bears game was maybe the worst game of the year. I mean, it was an unbelievably terrible, pathetic game.

You're supposed to get the bump. The Saints got the bump with that guy. The clogger bumped you back. That Niners-Bears game was maybe the worst game of the year. I mean, it was an unbelievably terrible, pathetic game.

You thought the Bears were going to win?

You thought the Bears were going to win?

They were way worse than they were under Matt Eberflus. Think about that. They looked way worse at the game. Like they should have brought Iberflues back. They would have had a better performance.

They were way worse than they were under Matt Eberflus. Think about that. They looked way worse at the game. Like they should have brought Iberflues back. They would have had a better performance.

Yeah. The locker room was so excited about the new guy and they're going to be ready to play. They were so bad in that game.

Yeah. The locker room was so excited about the new guy and they're going to be ready to play. They were so bad in that game.

I'm glad you brought that up.

I'm glad you brought that up.

Because I have landed on this take, and I say it all, never hire an interim coach. I don't care what happens. The interim coach is, you get out of a miserable marriage. You're just so pissed, and the next girlfriend you meet, you fucking marry her. You don't take her to Cabo. You marry her.

Because I have landed on this take, and I say it all, never hire an interim coach. I don't care what happens. The interim coach is, you get out of a miserable marriage. You're just so pissed, and the next girlfriend you meet, you fucking marry her. You don't take her to Cabo. You marry her.

Have her fling. Do it. Fine. She made me tune this out. It was incredible. Watch the Saints win a couple more games, and they'll be like, I don't know. Darren Rizzi gets them to compete. Don't hire Darren Rizzi. Do respect him.

Have her fling. Do it. Fine. She made me tune this out. It was incredible. Watch the Saints win a couple more games, and they'll be like, I don't know. Darren Rizzi gets them to compete. Don't hire Darren Rizzi. Do respect him.

Damn right. Changing out, 200, their car.

Damn right. Changing out, 200, their car.

Yeah, I like pit boss coach. And now he's the special teams coach again. But no, don't ever hire the interim coach. You're marrying the fling after the marriage. It's terrible.

Yeah, I like pit boss coach. And now he's the special teams coach again. But no, don't ever hire the interim coach. You're marrying the fling after the marriage. It's terrible.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Craig, have you had some takes on where Shador is going to go? I mean, he certainly feels like a Raider to me.

Craig, have you had some takes on where Shador is going to go? I mean, he certainly feels like a Raider to me.

It's a perfect fit. It's so Raiders-y. What if the Giants get the number one pick? Because the worst fit of all time is the Mara family and the Sanders family. Oh, my God.

It's a perfect fit. It's so Raiders-y. What if the Giants get the number one pick? Because the worst fit of all time is the Mara family and the Sanders family. Oh, my God.

But what if they get the number one pick and he's the guy? Raiders feels perfect. The Giants might get it, though.

But what if they get the number one pick and he's the guy? Raiders feels perfect. The Giants might get it, though.

And Bowers is sitting right there now. He already has a stud. And like, let's just have a carnival. Make Deion the coach. Why not? Have Shadruby the quarterback. It'd be great content.

And Bowers is sitting right there now. He already has a stud. And like, let's just have a carnival. Make Deion the coach. Why not? Have Shadruby the quarterback. It'd be great content.

Well, we had it in Pierce. Like that's the guy. We smoked cigars. I won a Super Bowl. But he just looks miserable now because they hired the interim coach. You don't do that. Right. Can't do it.

Well, we had it in Pierce. Like that's the guy. We smoked cigars. I won a Super Bowl. But he just looks miserable now because they hired the interim coach. You don't do that. Right. Can't do it.

It's like the happiest he's ever been in his life. And I mean, I mean like in all different ways.

A little bit. Yeah. It's funny to think about it. Like, can you even remember the last Bills loss? It's been so long before the Rams game.

They lost to the Texans that night. And the take was like, wow, Diggs got over on the Bills. And there was this viral moment of Diggs, like, side-eyeing him. And we haven't heard from Diggs since he got hurt. And Allen's taken over the world. But loves his offensive coordinator. Never more comfortable. Loves the guys in the room. And I don't think this is irrelevant. Like...

he's engaged to a movie star and a pop star and his personal life is out of control, like over the hill, over the moon, amazing. And he has a good run game and a good offensive line. Like, what do you want as a quarterback? My line's awesome. My running backs are awesome. I have like a really cool girl that I'm with and like my receivers are cool guys.

And I know they're not Calvin Johnson, but like they make plays for me. I think he's so happy and so confident. I think it's great.

I think he did. Yeah.

In a regular year, Lamar, there's Lamar fatigue. He's already got it a couple of times. Yeah. And I, listen, I was, I want Saquon to win a batter. Just be cool. he would have to have the perfect campaign. Like, he'd have to break the Dixon record. He'd have to have the touchdown, everything. Allen just took it away. I'm not sure it can be Saquon. Oh, really?

But I think as the Allen thing, especially as it pertains to Mahom, my concern is that that Rams game 20 years from now when, like, you tell your kids, your grandkids about Josh Allen, like, that's the Josh Allen experience. He's unbelievably cool superhero action star and the Bills lose.

What are you doing? Like, is he... I just worry that he's... like Dominique Wilkins or something. Like, it's just so awesome. Incredible talent. What did it amount to? He's even said it. He's like, he said it. I'm sick of winning t-shirts. He has a whole stack of t-shirts that are like division champ t-shirts. And he's like, I want to get them out of my closet. I don't want these anymore.

That's what he's known for at this point. Because if they lose in the playoffs, if they lose in the playoff this year to the Chiefs, What do you think if you're a Bills fan? Like this Chiefs team sucks. We can't even beat this one.

It's a big playoff.

Marlon Jackson interception sealed it. And it was like, holy shit, they beat Brady. And this is my test for the Chiefs right now. So we're picking away at all of them, and they barely win, and all their numbers are terrible, and the offense looks legitimately bad except for one drive every game. Let's say they get the one seed. They get the bye.

The division round, you're watching on your couch, and the Chiefs lose to Pittsburgh or Baltimore or Houston or somebody like that. Are you surprised? Because I'm shocked. I'll fall off my chair if they lose the division round, even as bad as they've been. That's my respect for them. I agree completely.

Yeah, the Raiders killed them on Christmas. Yes, it was like a super weird year.

Yes.

Without their best running back.

Yeah, I mean, the Chargers are built like Michigan.

No, definitely. I think the Chargers are going to win a playoff game. I like them still. I'm not jumping ship on the Chargers.

Without the best receiver, without the best running back, they play great defense.

Yeah. And I don't like that match. I don't like the Chargers. But the distinction, I think, with the Chiefs' weapons, it's like, I think there's having players that are just kind of average players But then there's having players who are just kind of average the way they're playing who are made guys. Like Jandre Hopkins and Kelsey, even Juju.

Those are guys who have been around, who've been in playoff games. Those are the guys who are like, oh, shit, we turned on the division run. Kelsey had nine catches and two touchdowns. They've done it. It's not average players who just suck and have never done it. These guys are all a friend of ours. You know what I mean? They can turn it on.

Yeah.

Yeah, okay.

You get it. Like you have this big play. Yeah, big defensive play. And then Jesus Christ, Nakua and Cooper were just doing anything they wanted.

They thought that, okay, so Matt Milano's back now. He was the heart and soul of their defense. He's back there going to stop it. And Terrell Bernard's amazing in the middle. But they did this Blake Corum thing that we haven't seen a lot of them this year. And then, obviously, Kyron. I have a little bit of a spicy take on the Bills-Rams thing is, I actually think that loss was good for the Bills.

And I'll tell you why. Everybody was just on their nuts across the whole country because they did a lateral play and they won in the snow and they're the best team ever. They go across the country, they get their ass whipped a little bit. Now they play the Lions, which is one of the biggest games of the regular season. I think they need to have their shit humbled a little bit. Just a little bit.

They were such a darling for about... three or four days, and then they weren't that good. And I think that get that loss out of the way now maybe and have a little bit of a wake-up call. I actually was not shocked that they lost that game because McVay is amazing. And when Cup and Nakua are out there for the Rams this year, the Rams are 6-2. Like, they're a very, very good team.

And their defense is, like, super young, super doesn't give a crap. I'll hit Josh Allen late, talk shit to him, don't care.

like the Rams are if I had to pick a team that holy shit a team that's in the Super Bowl I'd pick the Rams as like the holy shit team your holy shit team my holy shit team is the Rams like that is a dark horse Cinderella all that like they have the quarterback I think they have the best coach in football and they have this crazy young defense who doesn't know they're not supposed to be that good yet they're my holy shit Super Bowl team I think the holy shit team has to be AFC

But I think... Like the Chargers would be a holy shit.

I don't even know if they expected this.

I really do think it was, all right, this will be a year and we'll lose in the wild card or whatever. But just Allen's been that good and defense has been that good. Can I give you like a surprise disgruntled team right now? I'm kind of with you, like I have a couple friends And they're Philly guys. And they're like beside themselves right now. They hate this team.

They're like, we're going to lose. We're going to go one and done. They're panicking.

The Eagles have won nine in a row. And they're like, nope. Hurts doesn't have it. Their kicker keeps missing. That freaks people out. He can't make one from 50 plus. He hasn't made one all year. After this game, this last game, the problem is, all right, they barely beat the Panthers. And people have to update their expectations of the Panthers. The Panthers aren't the Panthers of September.

They're actually kind of good.

Like they almost beat the Chiefs.

And so Eagles fans are like, we suck. First of all, the Panthers are pretty good. But then right after the game, A.J. Brown, after a win, the ninth in a row, they're like, A.J., what do you think you need to work on? He's like, passing. You got to get better at passing. Jesus, AJ, you won nine in a row. Like there's some issues with Hurts.

And I think there's Eagles fans still don't totally believe in him. Just my friends. I think he's a really good player, but there's my friends.

So coach and quarterback. And also I think AJ Brown is like, I'm tired of the Saquon shit. Like, we passed the ball the least in the whole team. They're ranked last in the league in pass attempts. They run it. They have an MVP running back. I don't know if he's liking that either. This reminds me of, I was talking to an MVP. There's nine in a row they've won, and they're like, they're pissed.

So A.J. Brown's like, enough with the backwards hurdle. We get it. Enough with the sequence shit. Enough with the tush push.

I don't know.

Jefferson always seems pretty gruntled. Even when he wasn't putting up numbers. Yeah, he seemed happy for Addison. Huge contract. Huge. Plays indoors. Like, everybody loves him. I think Jefferson's gruntled.

It's nuts. So my background in Sam Darnold is, okay, was supposed to be the number one overall pick, fell a little bit, Baker rises up and steal it. From that point, every single coach slash guru, all the McVeighs and Shanahan's and like Jordan Palmer types, they all swear that Sam's the man. Oh, Darnold's incredible. Darnold's got it.

And as a fan, you're like, he mostly sucks every time we see him. It just feels like when somebody keeps recommending this show, you got to watch this show. It's so good. It's so good. And you're like, it's not that good. They're like, watch another episode. I promise.

Yeah.

The show is finally amazing. And all those coaches were like, he's amazing. And yet. They may just cut Bateman this year.

I don't know where he was. Top ten.

But you loved him.

They were good early. Listen, same organization, Vikings, a few years back. They're in the NFC title game. Their quarterback is Case Keenum. Right. Killing it. Making miracles to Stephon Diggs. Like, oh my God, Keenum. Yeah. Moved on. Went to Cousins. It was the right move.

Also, he doesn't say shit. He's a model citizen. Great reputation.

The take is very insulting to him. Here's the take. Okay. You have Jefferson and Addison and Aaron Jones and Hawkinson and KOC is your coach. of course you're succeeding. Right. It's the Brock Purdy. We can put somebody in there. It's the Brock Purdy.

It's going to happen. And we've seen, Cousins won 11 and one. as a Vikings quarterback. And they won every, and they got to the plate and they lost to Daniel Jones. So that's part of the reason why everyone's like, I don't know, Darnold, I feel like we've seen this shit before.

That's why you're saying no matter how much they win, you don't believe in them because we could look up and they lose in the wildcard round.

Yeah. To your point, though, let's say the Vikings are like, we love Sam, but we have a very bright future for JJ. We want to be in bench. What is the line that the Vikings get to where they're like, well, we're in the Super Bowl. We can't get rid of Sam Darnold now. Do they have to win it? I think you have to get to the Super Bowl. Because already, Case Keenum was in the title game with them.

They've already been that a few years ago. I think if he gets to the Super Bowl, I guess you're coming back.

Those three teams in the North. They're 28-3 outside of the North. They beat everybody.

They're up there. I think they're all top five teams. Who knows? They're 28-3 when they're not playing each other. So they kick the shit out of everybody. I think the Lions' defense reputation is down right now because of what we just saw. I think they'll be better. I think they'll be back. I still think they're going to win the Super Bowl. I still think it's the Lions.

Lions over Pittsburgh, you think, maybe? Or Chiefs?

Well, yeah.

Where are you at with Russ? Isn't this weird for you to be saying that?

Have you done the Russ pop culture comp? Like what this is? because like I was doing it the other day with Peter. I think it's, it's, it's Travolta. And the comeback Seattle was all of the seventies and eighties. And he's a superstar. He's the coolest rockstar ever. Denver was look, who's talking. It's pathetic. And then like four and two, Mike Tomlin put them in and it was just Pulp Fiction.

And like, he's like the coolest guy ever now and can't miss. It's an amazing.

You go, you go Lady Gaga. Yeah.

That's big. That's the 4-2 Pittsburgh.

I always would think that Tomlin wouldn't be here for the Russ theatrics that we used to see. Tomlin's good at that. He seems so affected.

Yeah. And Fryermuth. They're really good. They're an amazing team. The Russ thing, you see comebacks. They suck. You never see when someone's a superstar... then sucks, and then is a superstar again. The only ones I can think of are Kurt Warner, who went St.

And then the Giants, who was just weird, and then Arizona to the Super Bowl again. And then even a slightly less version of that, Carson Palmer was with the Bengals. He was with the Raiders, and I don't even remember that. And then he was with Arizona and was also in a title game. But the good shit and then good again is really hard to pull off.

We also might get Pittsburgh Denver in the playoffs. That'd be pretty fun.

Coaches and quarterbacks. When we do playoff picks to start the season, about four years ago, I learned this. I always pick Pittsburgh no matter what. Picked them this year to make the playoffs. And everyone's like, you're an idiot. They have no quarterback. I'm like, I know, but just always pick Pittsburgh. They get in the playoffs, always. And I pick McVay now too every year, the Rams.

That was another one.

Who did I say? The Rams.

Holy shit, this team is in the Super Bowl.

I hate the Texans. No, they're not good. The Texans are definitely going to play a Saturday playoff game like they always do. And it'll be like one o'clock.

The Caleb moment?

Houston's just dog shit on this.

Oh, another third and 10 in Houston. Great.

Isn't it crazy we've talked to playoffs this long, we haven't even mentioned the Ravens? Well, because we know they're going to be there. I know, but what are they going to do when they get there? Like, I don't have them in the Super Bowl. Does anybody? Their stock's low now.

Lamar media is weird.

Dolphins fans are frosty, for sure.

It's also one of the most unusual fantasy seasons in history because of what happened with McCaffrey. That was so strange.

That's why you play fantasy because of that Allen game against the Rams.

I think the Jets fans are a little in shock. Whereas the Giants fans are like, I don't know. Like when I run into people on the street and they're like, oh, you're on the football show. And I go, yeah. And the thing I always say to them, wherever I am, I'm like, oh, who's your team? Cowboys, Texans. The Giants fans always go... Like, they're so apologetic.

Oh, no. Our show that we do on NFL Network started in 2016. Every single year, the Jets and Giants have sucked. They've always sucked. The only one that didn't suck was the Giants team when they went on the boat with the Odell thing. Like, that's the only glimpse.

That was a fever dream.

But so I think the Giants fans are like, we know we're terrible and we're embarrassed. I think the Jets fans were like, they bought some lottery tickets and before they won it, they like put a down payment on a mansion and a boat and they're like, I'm going to win this shit. And then match one number on their lottery ticket.

And I think, so I think they're like, their mental health is in question and they're in shock. It sucks.

We're winning this year. We've got a great rotation.

The one he keeps retweeting about. It was the day the Jets Niners were going to play. I love it. I just want to go on record. I think this will be a complete disaster. Everyone will be fired and Rodgers will retire. And he's probably going to be right. The Jets season. It might have been the last great tweet. It was a great tweet. We talked about that on our show.

We even brought up Fennessey's tweet. But this season for the Jets is not like a D or a D. It is an F. It is as bad as it could go. Short of like a tragedy happened off the field.

Oh, just as a whole?

I think it's like a B-plus because we have just some really good teams. Like I mentioned, that thing in the NFC North is fun. That Bills-Rams game we just watched was amazing. that Lions game against the Packers was 34-31. Like we've got some Rembrandts. We've got some, like when you say, what was the game of the year? We have like eight or nine games of the year.

And I like that the quarterbacks aren't hurt.

That's really what I care about. Allen's out there. Mahomes out there. Even Burrow on a losing team. You get to watch those guys. You don't have to turn on the Thursday nighter and it's Taylor Heineke versus Mitch Trubisky.

We lost Aiden, but I heard it's not as bad as we thought.

All you care about is you got a guy.

Well, I can't believe I did the B plus then without mentioning it. I mean, I think like they are huge. There's two massive blemishes on the season. The Jets, just complete disaster. And the Bears. I mean, the Bears are a massive disappointment from start to finish. If the Jets are an F, the Bears are a D plus.

You're supposed to get the bump. The Saints got the bump with that guy. The clogger bumped you back. That Niners-Bears game was maybe the worst game of the year. I mean, it was an unbelievably terrible, pathetic game.

You thought the Bears were going to win?

They were way worse than they were under Matt Eberflus. Think about that. They looked way worse at the game. Like they should have brought Iberflues back. They would have had a better performance.

Yeah. The locker room was so excited about the new guy and they're going to be ready to play. They were so bad in that game.

I'm glad you brought that up.

Because I have landed on this take, and I say it all, never hire an interim coach. I don't care what happens. The interim coach is, you get out of a miserable marriage. You're just so pissed, and the next girlfriend you meet, you fucking marry her. You don't take her to Cabo. You marry her.

Have her fling. Do it. Fine. She made me tune this out. It was incredible. Watch the Saints win a couple more games, and they'll be like, I don't know. Darren Rizzi gets them to compete. Don't hire Darren Rizzi. Do respect him.

Damn right. Changing out, 200, their car.

Yeah, I like pit boss coach. And now he's the special teams coach again. But no, don't ever hire the interim coach. You're marrying the fling after the marriage. It's terrible.

Yeah.

Craig, have you had some takes on where Shador is going to go? I mean, he certainly feels like a Raider to me.

It's a perfect fit. It's so Raiders-y. What if the Giants get the number one pick? Because the worst fit of all time is the Mara family and the Sanders family. Oh, my God.

But what if they get the number one pick and he's the guy? Raiders feels perfect. The Giants might get it, though.

And Bowers is sitting right there now. He already has a stud. And like, let's just have a carnival. Make Deion the coach. Why not? Have Shadruby the quarterback. It'd be great content.

Well, we had it in Pierce. Like that's the guy. We smoked cigars. I won a Super Bowl. But he just looks miserable now because they hired the interim coach. You don't do that. Right. Can't do it.

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Hey, Rewatchables fans, you already knew we were coming to Boston for a sold-out show on March 27th, but what you didn't know is we're sticking around that weekend. We're going to host our first ever Rewatchables Film Festival while we're in Boston. We're screening some of our favorite movies, movies that we have done on this podcast.

And then we get a little weird with Interview with the Vampire, and all of a sudden we're at Jerry Maguire into Eyes Wide Shut, Vanilla Sky, which is kind of like the first Mission Impossible. That's kind of the second Cruise Prime. Then we end up with that long stretch following Oprah's Sofa, where we get Reacher, we get some good ones, some bad ones.

And then we get a little weird with Interview with the Vampire, and all of a sudden we're at Jerry Maguire into Eyes Wide Shut, Vanilla Sky, which is kind of like the first Mission Impossible. That's kind of the second Cruise Prime. Then we end up with that long stretch following Oprah's Sofa, where we get Reacher, we get some good ones, some bad ones.

It's a little like when Brady didn't win a Super Bowl for a while. And then Top Gun Maverick. And then some mission impossibles. Now Cruz is like in his fourth prime.

It's a little like when Brady didn't win a Super Bowl for a while. And then Top Gun Maverick. And then some mission impossibles. Now Cruz is like in his fourth prime.

Yeah. That other prime. Yeah. So four prime, but Kyle, this was the first cruise prime and he's basically playing variations of Pete Maverick Mitchell in as many movies as possible. Where does cold trickle rank for you in the cruise rankings? Cause I was kind of maybe one of my least favorite cruise characters of this run.

Yeah. That other prime. Yeah. So four prime, but Kyle, this was the first cruise prime and he's basically playing variations of Pete Maverick Mitchell in as many movies as possible. Where does cold trickle rank for you in the cruise rankings? Cause I was kind of maybe one of my least favorite cruise characters of this run.

Days of thunder. I guess it's sports movie month. Let's go.

Days of thunder. I guess it's sports movie month. Let's go.

Yeah, and then Leo kind of followed that blueprint a little bit too. How can I work with great directors and great stars? But yeah, this is a great run. So, and then he's in Few Good Men and The Firm. You know, Few Good Men is like the super cocky, sarcastic cruise. Rain Man is the full of confidence, charisma cruise. Cocktail is, to me, peak cruise. That's like my favorite cruise.

Yeah, and then Leo kind of followed that blueprint a little bit too. How can I work with great directors and great stars? But yeah, this is a great run. So, and then he's in Few Good Men and The Firm. You know, Few Good Men is like the super cocky, sarcastic cruise. Rain Man is the full of confidence, charisma cruise. Cocktail is, to me, peak cruise. That's like my favorite cruise.

I just love cocktail cruise. And then this is kind of in the Top Gun camp, right? CR is there. I guess Color of Money is a big charisma, like street tough cruise.

I just love cocktail cruise. And then this is kind of in the Top Gun camp, right? CR is there. I guess Color of Money is a big charisma, like street tough cruise.

He's from Eagle Rock.

He's from Eagle Rock.

Kyle, do you think Cruz was trying to make this guy like enigmatic and Trying to figure him out. Was this like, was that like the cruise angle? Cause it's a pretty muted cruise performance. Like you could argue this easily just could have been Kevin Costner. Like this isn't like a cruise dependent role. Whereas the other cruise movies, like you can't have cocktail without cruise.

Kyle, do you think Cruz was trying to make this guy like enigmatic and Trying to figure him out. Was this like, was that like the cruise angle? Cause it's a pretty muted cruise performance. Like you could argue this easily just could have been Kevin Costner. Like this isn't like a cruise dependent role. Whereas the other cruise movies, like you can't have cocktail without cruise.

You gotta see me drive. Woo!

You gotta see me drive. Woo!

You can't have few good men without cruise this. I feel like you could have other actors.

You can't have few good men without cruise this. I feel like you could have other actors.

And Cruz, basically it is like watching, uh, like LeBron on like the 2018 calves just being like, I'll turn it on this game and put up a 32, 11 and 12. Yeah. He has like four scenes where he's like, I'm going to cruise it up this scene. So it's enough that he still gets the win for being Cruz.

And Cruz, basically it is like watching, uh, like LeBron on like the 2018 calves just being like, I'll turn it on this game and put up a 32, 11 and 12. Yeah. He has like four scenes where he's like, I'm going to cruise it up this scene. So it's enough that he still gets the win for being Cruz.

Yeah, I think if you're redoing this movie and you could cast anybody from any era, this is like a Brad Pitt mid-2000s part.

Yeah, I think if you're redoing this movie and you could cast anybody from any era, this is like a Brad Pitt mid-2000s part.

This is like, you want the guy to be handsome, a little enigmatic. I can't read him. Cruise... Cruz has too much charisma to do that, and I think he wanted to be that, but eventually you can't contain your inner Tom Cruise if you're Tom Cruise, Kyle.

This is like, you want the guy to be handsome, a little enigmatic. I can't read him. Cruise... Cruz has too much charisma to do that, and I think he wanted to be that, but eventually you can't contain your inner Tom Cruise if you're Tom Cruise, Kyle.

Maybe the best hair he's ever had.

Maybe the best hair he's ever had.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You left out one piece of the cruise pie, the... The blank face of fear. I don't know how this is going to turn out. Maybe I shouldn't do this, which they use leverage perfectly with the smoke scene. Yeah, driving through the wreck being the... The blank cruise, I'm not sure this is a good idea face.

You left out one piece of the cruise pie, the... The blank face of fear. I don't know how this is going to turn out. Maybe I shouldn't do this, which they use leverage perfectly with the smoke scene. Yeah, driving through the wreck being the... The blank cruise, I'm not sure this is a good idea face.

talk to me rowdy talk to me he's looking at rowdy's dog tags yeah it's like trickles re-engaging yes it's to the note the same motion and scene do you think they thought about calling rowdy goose or no goose burns um nicole kidman her first mainstream movie because dead crumb was an indie She's 23 years old in real life playing a brain surgeon.

talk to me rowdy talk to me he's looking at rowdy's dog tags yeah it's like trickles re-engaging yes it's to the note the same motion and scene do you think they thought about calling rowdy goose or no goose burns um nicole kidman her first mainstream movie because dead crumb was an indie She's 23 years old in real life playing a brain surgeon.

She looks... Fantastic.

She looks... Fantastic.

And when you think she's been in our lives since dead calm, but really since this movie and it's a 35 year run and just thinking about what was that movie called? Baby girl, baby girl, fucking insane movie. And she's still cranking it along and making weird sex movies and still going this person here. It's, it's almost like watching like her, the Nicole Kidman now, like her redheaded daughter, uh,

And when you think she's been in our lives since dead calm, but really since this movie and it's a 35 year run and just thinking about what was that movie called? Baby girl, baby girl, fucking insane movie. And she's still cranking it along and making weird sex movies and still going this person here. It's, it's almost like watching like her, the Nicole Kidman now, like her redheaded daughter, uh,

Is in this movie. Like, she just seems so young, and now you watch this movie with this whole backstory of, oh, Cruise and Kidman fell in love on this movie. CR, is this the prequel to Eyes Wide Shut for you?

Is in this movie. Like, she just seems so young, and now you watch this movie with this whole backstory of, oh, Cruise and Kidman fell in love on this movie. CR, is this the prequel to Eyes Wide Shut for you?

Okay, good. Yeah. Great. Cold Trickle, loosely based on the careers of Tim Richmond and Jeff Bodine. Mm-hmm. Tim Richmond, we did 30 for 30 in season one about, was a pretty crazy NASCAR driver, ended up getting HIV, passed away. Pretty tragic story.

Okay, good. Yeah. Great. Cold Trickle, loosely based on the careers of Tim Richmond and Jeff Bodine. Mm-hmm. Tim Richmond, we did 30 for 30 in season one about, was a pretty crazy NASCAR driver, ended up getting HIV, passed away. Pretty tragic story.

Yeah. Yeah. But Dale Earnhardt Jr. said he thought the movie was based on a rivalry between his dad and Bodine. And then they stole a bunch of NASCAR stuff like the Cole and Rowdy will drive to the dinner thing together. That came from an actual meeting when they're trying to get Earnhardt Sr. and Bodine to to to to kind of get along better. Cole deliberately blowing his engine by over revving.

Yeah. Yeah. But Dale Earnhardt Jr. said he thought the movie was based on a rivalry between his dad and Bodine. And then they stole a bunch of NASCAR stuff like the Cole and Rowdy will drive to the dinner thing together. That came from an actual meeting when they're trying to get Earnhardt Sr. and Bodine to to to to kind of get along better. Cole deliberately blowing his engine by over revving.

That was a famous Tim Richmond story. He did it. Trickle can't pit because the crew is too busy eating ice cream. Apparently that happened in 1987, Southern 500 with Benny Parsons. And then Cole and Rowdy destroying rental cars. Apparently in the 1950s, these two NASCAR superstars, I know you're very fond of them, Kyle. Joe Weatherly and Curtis Turner. Those are my guys.

That was a famous Tim Richmond story. He did it. Trickle can't pit because the crew is too busy eating ice cream. Apparently that happened in 1987, Southern 500 with Benny Parsons. And then Cole and Rowdy destroying rental cars. Apparently in the 1950s, these two NASCAR superstars, I know you're very fond of them, Kyle. Joe Weatherly and Curtis Turner. Those are my guys.

Supposedly would just rent cars and then just fuck them up and race them.

Supposedly would just rent cars and then just fuck them up and race them.

All right, fellas, I guess it's officially sports movie month. We did Rocky. We did best in show. We did days of thunder and we're more than halfway through March. This was a special Kyle Brandt request.

All right, fellas, I guess it's officially sports movie month. We did Rocky. We did best in show. We did days of thunder and we're more than halfway through March. This was a special Kyle Brandt request.

You do? Yeah. You and Fantasy on your way to a shoot?

You do? Yeah. You and Fantasy on your way to a shoot?

Just crashing into each other.

Just crashing into each other.

I don't care. But if they did this about football and probably took the liberties they took with this movie, the three of us would be going nuts. We would. There'd be only 10 guys on the field for the final sequence. Like, what are they doing?

I don't care. But if they did this about football and probably took the liberties they took with this movie, the three of us would be going nuts. We would. There'd be only 10 guys on the field for the final sequence. Like, what are they doing?

I saw this movie the summer, I think it was after a sophomore year in college. I just saw it for Cruise. It didn't make me want to care about NASCAR at all. It did make me wonder why there weren't more NASCAR movies. And then every once in a while, what was that? Burt Reynolds movie with Sly Stallone, Burt Reynolds, Driven. Oh, yeah. 2000 range with Kit Pardue from Remember the Titans. For sure.

I saw this movie the summer, I think it was after a sophomore year in college. I just saw it for Cruise. It didn't make me want to care about NASCAR at all. It did make me wonder why there weren't more NASCAR movies. And then every once in a while, what was that? Burt Reynolds movie with Sly Stallone, Burt Reynolds, Driven. Oh, yeah. 2000 range with Kit Pardue from Remember the Titans. For sure.

And that was like, every decade somebody goes for it. But I mean, I'm sure when producer Craig pops in, he's just gonna, he probably, he hadn't seen this movie till last night. And this is, this is basically Talladega Nights is a parody of this movie.

And that was like, every decade somebody goes for it. But I mean, I'm sure when producer Craig pops in, he's just gonna, he probably, he hadn't seen this movie till last night. And this is, this is basically Talladega Nights is a parody of this movie.

Right. So that's, I think people's relationship under 40 with this whole world is Talladega Nights. Yeah.

Right. So that's, I think people's relationship under 40 with this whole world is Talladega Nights. Yeah.

Why?

Why?

plus maybe a couple others, at the historic Coolidge Corner Theater. We're doing it all weekend from March 28th through March 30th. One of my favorite theaters in America. We might even make a few surprise appearances at a couple of these screenings. It's your chance to see some of our favorites as they were meant to be seen on... The big screen.

plus maybe a couple others, at the historic Coolidge Corner Theater. We're doing it all weekend from March 28th through March 30th. One of my favorite theaters in America. We might even make a few surprise appearances at a couple of these screenings. It's your chance to see some of our favorites as they were meant to be seen on... The big screen.

Rex is like, I'm thinking of taking us to the Super Bowl and then completely falling apart. Kyle said, that sounds great.

Rex is like, I'm thinking of taking us to the Super Bowl and then completely falling apart. Kyle said, that sounds great.

My relationship as a kid of the 70s and 80s with this whole world was every once in a while, Sports Illustrated would write about it. Like, I just looked it up because I remembered it was Cole Yarborough. I didn't remember who the other person was. But there was a big fight in 1979 between Cole Yarborough and Bobby Allison. I think Bobby Allison.

My relationship as a kid of the 70s and 80s with this whole world was every once in a while, Sports Illustrated would write about it. Like, I just looked it up because I remembered it was Cole Yarborough. I didn't remember who the other person was. But there was a big fight in 1979 between Cole Yarborough and Bobby Allison. I think Bobby Allison.

And Sports Illustrated wrote a story about it. And I was like, whoa. these guys fought on the track. Like NASCAR seems kind of cool. And then never watched it. And then the other thing would be if it was on a network that had football, they would promote it. Yeah. Coming up next Daytona.

And Sports Illustrated wrote a story about it. And I was like, whoa. these guys fought on the track. Like NASCAR seems kind of cool. And then never watched it. And then the other thing would be if it was on a network that had football, they would promote it. Yeah. Coming up next Daytona.

And, but it just never, never took, I always felt like it was just kind of in the South, just kind of happening over here.

And, but it just never, never took, I always felt like it was just kind of in the South, just kind of happening over here.

Like the first two months I had my podcast for ESPN, 2007. Tony Stewart was one of my first guests.

Like the first two months I had my podcast for ESPN, 2007. Tony Stewart was one of my first guests.

I don't even think it was Subway Fresh Take yet. And I did the research and I saw that he had a car, number 33. Yeah. So I was like, oh, this would be a good icebreaker. My favorite number, Larry Bird.

I don't even think it was Subway Fresh Take yet. And I did the research and I saw that he had a car, number 33. Yeah. So I was like, oh, this would be a good icebreaker. My favorite number, Larry Bird.

And we started off. I'm on the phone with him, so I can't see him. And I'm like, yeah, you know, you're one of my favorites because you race number 33. And he's like, I'm actually number 20 or whatever it is. I only ran 33 that couple races. Oh, shit. So it was just, couldn't have been off to a worse start.

And we started off. I'm on the phone with him, so I can't see him. And I'm like, yeah, you know, you're one of my favorites because you race number 33. And he's like, I'm actually number 20 or whatever it is. I only ran 33 that couple races. Oh, shit. So it was just, couldn't have been off to a worse start.

And then he withdrew and it was like one of the, it was probably the worst interview I'd ever, ever did for the podcast.

And then he withdrew and it was like one of the, it was probably the worst interview I'd ever, ever did for the podcast.

I know.

I know.

We're going to take a break. And then when we come back, we're going to talk about a famously fucked up shoot. This movie was filmed in and around Charlotte and Daytona Beach. And went 25 to 30 million over budget, they say, which is probably really 50. Because we had Simpson and Bruckheimer. We had Tony Scott. legend, a rewatchables hall of famer.

We're going to take a break. And then when we come back, we're going to talk about a famously fucked up shoot. This movie was filmed in and around Charlotte and Daytona Beach. And went 25 to 30 million over budget, they say, which is probably really 50. Because we had Simpson and Bruckheimer. We had Tony Scott. legend, a rewatchables hall of famer.

I'm not positive he was that easy to work with from time to time. So you have him and then you have Robert town who's on the set with like crazy power. And then you have Cruz and it's the four guys. And then sometimes Cruz just arguing about everything because they keep changing the script.

I'm not positive he was that easy to work with from time to time. So you have him and then you have Robert town who's on the set with like crazy power. And then you have Cruz and it's the four guys. And then sometimes Cruz just arguing about everything because they keep changing the script.

the crew members apparently made so much overtime that they didn't have to work for like six months after scenes were written day of the filming. I, I, this almost seems too crazy to be true, but apparently crews would have cue cards on the windshield because the scenes are being rewritten so fast. He wouldn't know his lines.

the crew members apparently made so much overtime that they didn't have to work for like six months after scenes were written day of the filming. I, I, this almost seems too crazy to be true, but apparently crews would have cue cards on the windshield because the scenes are being rewritten so fast. He wouldn't know his lines.

Well, Cruz ends up almost crashing because of the cue cards. So they decide that's a bad idea. They have to put the earplugs like he's a quarterback in football with Towns as the OC calling him plays. What were you saying, Kyle?

Well, Cruz ends up almost crashing because of the cue cards. So they decide that's a bad idea. They have to put the earplugs like he's a quarterback in football with Towns as the OC calling him plays. What were you saying, Kyle?

Say it, say it. Tom, just I'm dropping the hammer really quick. Filming finished three months late. And it's crazy shit. Towns really wanted, I guess Duvall's character, to have an awesome barn. So they built the barn. Towns like, I don't like it. Let's do it again. Knock it down. They build it again. And now, still didn't get it right. They knock it down. They build it a third time. It's like,

Say it, say it. Tom, just I'm dropping the hammer really quick. Filming finished three months late. And it's crazy shit. Towns really wanted, I guess Duvall's character, to have an awesome barn. So they built the barn. Towns like, I don't like it. Let's do it again. Knock it down. They build it again. And now, still didn't get it right. They knock it down. They build it a third time. It's like,

But they show shots. They show them. They don't show. Yeah, they don't show the wide shot in the movie. You're right.

But they show shots. They show them. They don't show. Yeah, they don't show the wide shot in the movie. You're right.

They just probably decided not to like it. The other thing is they did all these reshoots. They went all this money over budget and then realized after they finished the movie that they didn't have cold trickle crossing the finish line in the biggest race.

They just probably decided not to like it. The other thing is they did all these reshoots. They went all this money over budget and then realized after they finished the movie that they didn't have cold trickle crossing the finish line in the biggest race.

And had to go back and redo that part after it was already done. It was probably the only thing that really truly mattered to get on camera. They didn't get. Simpson and Bruckheimer, they spent $400,000 and this is 1990 money. So what's that? Like 2 million now? I don't even know. A lot. To have part of their hotel that they were staying in converted into a private gym.

And had to go back and redo that part after it was already done. It was probably the only thing that really truly mattered to get on camera. They didn't get. Simpson and Bruckheimer, they spent $400,000 and this is 1990 money. So what's that? Like 2 million now? I don't even know. A lot. To have part of their hotel that they were staying in converted into a private gym.

That also had a large neon sign on it that said days of thunder. So that happened. Simpson had a whole closet of Donna Karan dresses and he would offer women that he met either the dresses or come be my assistant, stuff like that. They were throwing parties every night.

That also had a large neon sign on it that said days of thunder. So that happened. Simpson had a whole closet of Donna Karan dresses and he would offer women that he met either the dresses or come be my assistant, stuff like that. They were throwing parties every night.

And it hit that 1990, it comes out and it's just on cable for the next 15 years, just straight. And you could jump in when you want. What's your relationship, C.R. ?

And it hit that 1990, it comes out and it's just on cable for the next 15 years, just straight. And you could jump in when you want. What's your relationship, C.R. ?

They had parties with people like Tone Loke rapping and They, um, post-production was five weeks instead of five months because they took so long to film this thing that they, they were like, this movie is coming out June 27th, 1990. This is it. It's coming out on this date. They don't finish until mid May. They now have five weeks to edit and finish and complete and get prints out for the movie.

They had parties with people like Tone Loke rapping and They, um, post-production was five weeks instead of five months because they took so long to film this thing that they, they were like, this movie is coming out June 27th, 1990. This is it. It's coming out on this date. They don't finish until mid May. They now have five weeks to edit and finish and complete and get prints out for the movie.

Paramount was so upset afterwards that, That they asked for a 9 million refund on the profit participation from Don and Jerry. We're told though, and then ended the relationship that had just started. So basically like Buffalo gives Josh Allen that $330 million deal. He has one bad season. They're like, we're out. We're just going to pay you off. 120 million done. Bill.

Paramount was so upset afterwards that, That they asked for a 9 million refund on the profit participation from Don and Jerry. We're told though, and then ended the relationship that had just started. So basically like Buffalo gives Josh Allen that $330 million deal. He has one bad season. They're like, we're out. We're just going to pay you off. 120 million done. Bill.

What happened to it?

What happened to it?

I think the best time to get a pump in was probably between 7 and 9 a.m. in the morning because Don Simpson was probably still out.

I think the best time to get a pump in was probably between 7 and 9 a.m. in the morning because Don Simpson was probably still out.

There was one of the stories about it. They're talking about the gym.

There was one of the stories about it. They're talking about the gym.

And they make a point of saying how Cruz didn't work out in the gym because he was renting a house and built his own gym in the house. They're just like... They're shooting $100 bills all around the Carolina area.

And they make a point of saying how Cruz didn't work out in the gym because he was renting a house and built his own gym in the house. They're just like... They're shooting $100 bills all around the Carolina area.

Well, they did a lot of press, too, about... This paramount deal they did. They took the newspaper ads for themselves, congratulated themselves. They did all that. So Hollywood was lined up at this point. Hollywood was in full fuck these guys mode. CR sent us a spy magazine one pager where some of the stuff that we're talking about was in there. It's like 450 words. The vultures were out.

Well, they did a lot of press, too, about... This paramount deal they did. They took the newspaper ads for themselves, congratulated themselves. They did all that. So Hollywood was lined up at this point. Hollywood was in full fuck these guys mode. CR sent us a spy magazine one pager where some of the stuff that we're talking about was in there. It's like 450 words. The vultures were out.

Well, and it fucked up. So their next movie is supposed to be Beverly Hills Cop 3.

Well, and it fucked up. So their next movie is supposed to be Beverly Hills Cop 3.

And still catching Eddie, the tail end of before, I think he moved into a different phase of comedy. And that gets delayed for three years. By the time they make it, it ends up being one of the worst sequels in a while. But then Simpson just... Is a fucking mess for most of the 90s. And then has the one last comeback with Bad Boys and Crimson Tide.

And still catching Eddie, the tail end of before, I think he moved into a different phase of comedy. And that gets delayed for three years. By the time they make it, it ends up being one of the worst sequels in a while. But then Simpson just... Is a fucking mess for most of the 90s. And then has the one last comeback with Bad Boys and Crimson Tide.

Ends up breaking up with Bruckheimer and then dies. Overdoses.

Ends up breaking up with Bruckheimer and then dies. Overdoses.

Yeah. The $400,000 gym. Maybe not in that budget. It did make 157.9 million. Are you going to ever have a Don Simpson phase for me, Bill? Like, are we ever going to really ball out? I've had it. It's like Watergate. I can just go back and do it again. I've already done it. I've already read all the books, but I'm happy to redo it if you want.

Yeah. The $400,000 gym. Maybe not in that budget. It did make 157.9 million. Are you going to ever have a Don Simpson phase for me, Bill? Like, are we ever going to really ball out? I've had it. It's like Watergate. I can just go back and do it again. I've already done it. I've already read all the books, but I'm happy to redo it if you want.

I'm too afraid of cocaine.

I'm too afraid of cocaine.

I'm too afraid. The limb bias put the fair guy to me. Okay. Okay. That's it.

I'm too afraid. The limb bias put the fair guy to me. Okay. Okay. That's it.

But I'm probably like Cruz. I like being peripherally near where the debauchery is happening, and I like hearing the stories after, but keep me out of the rooms.

But I'm probably like Cruz. I like being peripherally near where the debauchery is happening, and I like hearing the stories after, but keep me out of the rooms.

Oh, yeah. Okay. I think during the cocaine era, my 55 was like 42. Mm-hmm.

Oh, yeah. Okay. I think during the cocaine era, my 55 was like 42. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, so you just add another 10 years. Cruise made $9 million plus points for this movie. It got nominated for an Oscar for Best Sound. Roger Ebert, three stars. Days of Thunder is an entertaining example of what we might as well call the Tom Cruise picture.

Yeah, so you just add another 10 years. Cruise made $9 million plus points for this movie. It got nominated for an Oscar for Best Sound. Roger Ebert, three stars. Days of Thunder is an entertaining example of what we might as well call the Tom Cruise picture.

And then goes through all the beats of Tom Cruise movies, which I don't need to read. Parts of the plot are beginning to wear out their welcome, but the key ingredients are still effective. And then he says about Nicole Kidman, Kidman has little to do as the love interest and doesn't make much of an impression. I disagree. I think she classes it up. Yeah, I do. I thought she looked awesome.

And then goes through all the beats of Tom Cruise movies, which I don't need to read. Parts of the plot are beginning to wear out their welcome, but the key ingredients are still effective. And then he says about Nicole Kidman, Kidman has little to do as the love interest and doesn't make much of an impression. I disagree. I think she classes it up. Yeah, I do. I thought she looked awesome.

Our guy, Quentin Tarantino loves it.

Our guy, Quentin Tarantino loves it.

I'm a big fan. To me, Days of Thunder is the movie Grand Prix and Le Mans should have been. Sure, it had a big budget, big stars, and a big director in Tony Scott, but it had the fun of those early AIP movies. I just don't think it works if you take the whole thing too seriously. He also loves Tony Scott, we should mention.

I'm a big fan. To me, Days of Thunder is the movie Grand Prix and Le Mans should have been. Sure, it had a big budget, big stars, and a big director in Tony Scott, but it had the fun of those early AIP movies. I just don't think it works if you take the whole thing too seriously. He also loves Tony Scott, we should mention.

That was not my takeaway.

That was not my takeaway.

Yeah, that was not my takeaway.

Yeah, that was not my takeaway.

Yeah, I mean, Bob Towne probably was thinking about this like the way, like to me, without limits, the other, the Prefontaine movie with Billy Crudup. That's the version of Days of Thunder. Bob Towne probably had this head, but that's not what is on the screen. That's not what Tony and Don were thinking. No, that's not what they're thinking. All right, categories. I'm swerving with you guys.

Yeah, I mean, Bob Towne probably was thinking about this like the way, like to me, without limits, the other, the Prefontaine movie with Billy Crudup. That's the version of Days of Thunder. Bob Towne probably had this head, but that's not what is on the screen. That's not what Tony and Don were thinking. No, that's not what they're thinking. All right, categories. I'm swerving with you guys.

I have two categories at the top before most rewatchables. Oh, yeah. What do you got? I moved some stuff up because I think it's too important. The Chess Rockwell and Brock Landers Award for Best Character Name. Yeah, come on. Our nominees are Cole Trickle, Rowdy Burns, Harry Hogg, spelled H-O-G-G-E, or Buddy Bretherton. I think it's Rowdy Burns. What do you think, Kyle?

I have two categories at the top before most rewatchables. Oh, yeah. What do you got? I moved some stuff up because I think it's too important. The Chess Rockwell and Brock Landers Award for Best Character Name. Yeah, come on. Our nominees are Cole Trickle, Rowdy Burns, Harry Hogg, spelled H-O-G-G-E, or Buddy Bretherton. I think it's Rowdy Burns. What do you think, Kyle?

We're due for a rowdy in sports. Yeah. We are. I guess Abdul Carter is a pretty good name, but Mason Graham in the NFL draft right now, if Mason Graham's name was Rowdy and he was like, it's Rowdy Graham, the Michigan defensive tackle, I'd be like, Jesus, that guy's got to go first.

We're due for a rowdy in sports. Yeah. We are. I guess Abdul Carter is a pretty good name, but Mason Graham in the NFL draft right now, if Mason Graham's name was Rowdy and he was like, it's Rowdy Graham, the Michigan defensive tackle, I'd be like, Jesus, that guy's got to go first.

Well, another category. This is a brand new category, CR. Okay. 376 movies. I think it's a decent ad. You're still surprising me. The Dr. Claire Lewicki Award for Worst Character Name. Why is her name Dr. Claire Lewicki? She's a fucking redhead from Australia.

Well, another category. This is a brand new category, CR. Okay. 376 movies. I think it's a decent ad. You're still surprising me. The Dr. Claire Lewicki Award for Worst Character Name. Why is her name Dr. Claire Lewicki? She's a fucking redhead from Australia.

Yeah, and it's also one of these movies that, as the years have passed, becomes just more interesting from all the side plots of when they made it, what happened with Cruise and Kidman. The half-assed internet research for this movie is almost too much.

Yeah, and it's also one of these movies that, as the years have passed, becomes just more interesting from all the side plots of when they made it, what happened with Cruise and Kidman. The half-assed internet research for this movie is almost too much.

Once they hired Kidman, couldn't she have been Dr. Claire Sanders?

Once they hired Kidman, couldn't she have been Dr. Claire Sanders?

Town's like, boom, I'm taking a break. I can't believe I came up with such a great name.

Town's like, boom, I'm taking a break. I can't believe I came up with such a great name.

What an amazing New York Times wedding announcement. NASCAR driver Cole Trickle is paired with Dr. Claire Lewicki, 23-year-old neurosurgeon. The groom wore mellow yellow green.

What an amazing New York Times wedding announcement. NASCAR driver Cole Trickle is paired with Dr. Claire Lewicki, 23-year-old neurosurgeon. The groom wore mellow yellow green.

Most rewatchable scene. So Cole's first scene.

Most rewatchable scene. So Cole's first scene.

I know a damn race car driver when I see one. Let me drive. I won't make a fool out of you. We get that whole thing. Cruise showing up on a motorcycle is hilarious. How many times has Cruise broken out a motorcycle in a movie, if you had to guess?

I know a damn race car driver when I see one. Let me drive. I won't make a fool out of you. We get that whole thing. Cruise showing up on a motorcycle is hilarious. How many times has Cruise broken out a motorcycle in a movie, if you had to guess?

Yes. Oh, that's interesting.

Yes. Oh, that's interesting.

I, it was one of the rare times, like, you know, if we're doing boogie nights or something like that, there's going to be a shitload of research and it's worth it. This is like, how long do we go about Don Simpson? Do we go an hour? Do we go three hours? Like what's.

I, it was one of the rare times, like, you know, if we're doing boogie nights or something like that, there's going to be a shitload of research and it's worth it. This is like, how long do we go about Don Simpson? Do we go an hour? Do we go three hours? Like what's.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, I had this written later, but Randy Quaid was in Brokeback Mountain and that somehow wasn't the gayest sexual attention movie that he's been in because Colin Crowdy.

Yeah, I had this written later, but Randy Quaid was in Brokeback Mountain and that somehow wasn't the gayest sexual attention movie that he's been in because Colin Crowdy.

You build me a car and I'll win Daytona next year. I love when people just say shit like that during a football movie. You get me an offensive line, I'll win the Super Bowl next year. It's like, you're from fucking Eagle Rock, California. You're racing like gimmick. What are you talking about?

You build me a car and I'll win Daytona next year. I love when people just say shit like that during a football movie. You get me an offensive line, I'll win the Super Bowl next year. It's like, you're from fucking Eagle Rock, California. You're racing like gimmick. What are you talking about?

Are we at capacity now with Gimme Some Lovin'? For sure, but in 1990? Is it almost like in the air tonight for football games? Like, just no more. Like, we're good. We had a great run. Let's move on.

Are we at capacity now with Gimme Some Lovin'? For sure, but in 1990? Is it almost like in the air tonight for football games? Like, just no more. Like, we're good. We had a great run. Let's move on.

Yeah, that's damn right. He rubbed you and Robinson is racing. Stuff like that. We get to hit the pace car. We get that. We're busy. We're eating ice cream. We get lines like, what do we do? We end up looking like a monkey fucking football out there.

Yeah, that's damn right. He rubbed you and Robinson is racing. Stuff like that. We get to hit the pace car. We get that. We're busy. We're eating ice cream. We get lines like, what do we do? We end up looking like a monkey fucking football out there.

Great Randy Quaid run. We also get Cole saying, there's nothing I can't do with a race car, which I think if it's story by Tom Cruise and Robert town, he probably suggested that line.

Great Randy Quaid run. We also get Cole saying, there's nothing I can't do with a race car, which I think if it's story by Tom Cruise and Robert town, he probably suggested that line.

You can reject it, but just what if this guy won't be heard if we don't use this, but I think it's good. Uh, next one, Cole wins his first race. I like the whole concept of I'm going faster. Everyone else is going slower. Cause it feels like there's some deep NASCAR shit going on there. I don't fully understand it. We get the pit disaster. We get Cruz flip it out. Son of a bitch.

You can reject it, but just what if this guy won't be heard if we don't use this, but I think it's good. Uh, next one, Cole wins his first race. I like the whole concept of I'm going faster. Everyone else is going slower. Cause it feels like there's some deep NASCAR shit going on there. I don't fully understand it. We get the pit disaster. We get Cruz flip it out. Son of a bitch.

This is before he had like the voice leveling stuff. Cause when he screams, his voice goes too high. Carrie lies about the tires I like. And then always fun when it's the boy doesn't have the balls to pass me on turn four. None of us understand NASCAR, but it's like, yeah, that sounds pretty crazy to pass them on turn four. Is he going to try that?

This is before he had like the voice leveling stuff. Cause when he screams, his voice goes too high. Carrie lies about the tires I like. And then always fun when it's the boy doesn't have the balls to pass me on turn four. None of us understand NASCAR, but it's like, yeah, that sounds pretty crazy to pass them on turn four. Is he going to try that?

Well, we might have to because, you know, Don Simpson and Jerry Bruckheimer, these legendary eighties and nineties producers, they, and they're starting this giant Paramount deal. They did, which according to premier magazine was five movies, $300 million, which is crazy. And it's, and there's been podcasts about these guys. There's been books written about them.

Well, we might have to because, you know, Don Simpson and Jerry Bruckheimer, these legendary eighties and nineties producers, they, and they're starting this giant Paramount deal. They did, which according to premier magazine was five movies, $300 million, which is crazy. And it's, and there's been podcasts about these guys. There's been books written about them.

I enjoy that part. I enjoy when they win a race in car movies. Just a brief scene, but Cole getting stopped by the police stripper.

I enjoy that part. I enjoy when they win a race in car movies. Just a brief scene, but Cole getting stopped by the police stripper.

I think when you say Don Simpson special... Odds are strippers and or cocaine are going to be involved. So in this case, we get one. What did you think of Tom Cruise's? If this movie was rated R, this scene could have definitely. Talk about it. We could have explored the studio space with this scene, I think.

I think when you say Don Simpson special... Odds are strippers and or cocaine are going to be involved. So in this case, we get one. What did you think of Tom Cruise's? If this movie was rated R, this scene could have definitely. Talk about it. We could have explored the studio space with this scene, I think.

They let Cruz go in the van.

They let Cruz go in the van.

she goes in the bus with cole and they all just wait women but you're right so wait last last question about that woman and do you guys you guys know who that is that actress do you know this i can you save it for casting with it yeah yeah yeah yeah it's unbelievable i just want to make sure you do it oh i couldn't believe it do you know chrissy do you know cr who that i do okay oh you want to do it now now let's save it let's save it let's save it for the audience now they're excited yes um

she goes in the bus with cole and they all just wait women but you're right so wait last last question about that woman and do you guys you guys know who that is that actress do you know this i can you save it for casting with it yeah yeah yeah yeah it's unbelievable i just want to make sure you do it oh i couldn't believe it do you know chrissy do you know cr who that i do okay oh you want to do it now now let's save it let's save it let's save it for the audience now they're excited yes um

They've been, the story has been told ad nauseum about just how crazy Don Simpson was. This was the craziest he was during this entire run. 1990, where he's just like, budget? Fuck it. Is it $35 million? Let's go $65. Let's just argue on the racetrack about a scene for an entire day while we pay hundreds of extras and then not film the scene.

They've been, the story has been told ad nauseum about just how crazy Don Simpson was. This was the craziest he was during this entire run. 1990, where he's just like, budget? Fuck it. Is it $35 million? Let's go $65. Let's just argue on the racetrack about a scene for an entire day while we pay hundreds of extras and then not film the scene.

Next scene's another short one, but Cole thinks Dr. Claire Lewicki is another stripper. After the crash. After the crash and puts her hand. There's some violations here, but it leads right to the wheelchair race, which is a phenomenal scene. But this whole stretch is pretty funny. This is probably my favorite part of the movie right around here.

Next scene's another short one, but Cole thinks Dr. Claire Lewicki is another stripper. After the crash. After the crash and puts her hand. There's some violations here, but it leads right to the wheelchair race, which is a phenomenal scene. But this whole stretch is pretty funny. This is probably my favorite part of the movie right around here.

Cole wins his first race, the bus, all this stuff. The accident. The accident, all this stuff. Yeah. I enjoyed the rental car race. How did they end up in the water during this? If you had to guess.

Cole wins his first race, the bus, all this stuff. The accident. The accident, all this stuff. Yeah. I enjoyed the rental car race. How did they end up in the water during this? If you had to guess.

In the rental car race. Oh, down by the beach? We're banging in the street. All of a sudden, we're on the beach just going through water that's spraying.

In the rental car race. Oh, down by the beach? We're banging in the street. All of a sudden, we're on the beach just going through water that's spraying.

The valet situation is funny, too. Yeah. Cole ruins Russ Wheeler's victory lap when he comes out and just rams his car. I love that part. They write in a little Cruz Duvall. Like, let's do a little four-minute emotional scene here. Yeah.

The valet situation is funny, too. Yeah. Cole ruins Russ Wheeler's victory lap when he comes out and just rams his car. I love that part. They write in a little Cruz Duvall. Like, let's do a little four-minute emotional scene here. Yeah.

It's really the only time Cruz dials it up as an actor for two hours. And Duvall's, you know, he's going against an Oscar winner. There's a moment.

It's really the only time Cruz dials it up as an actor for two hours. And Duvall's, you know, he's going against an Oscar winner. There's a moment.

It's like, what happened? I'm watching this movie for the first time. And it was something you casually mentioned an hour and a half ago. Yeah.

It's like, what happened? I'm watching this movie for the first time. And it was something you casually mentioned an hour and a half ago. Yeah.

Last one, Cole's big Daytona comeback. seeing the smoke driving through it. Symbolic in a lot of ways, Kyle, like little, like I'm sure Josh Allen watches this movie and thinks there's going to be another moment on a fourth and one. I just got to go through the smoke.

Last one, Cole's big Daytona comeback. seeing the smoke driving through it. Symbolic in a lot of ways, Kyle, like little, like I'm sure Josh Allen watches this movie and thinks there's going to be another moment on a fourth and one. I just got to go through the smoke.

We're signing.

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Uh, I like the big, we gotta, I mean, none of us understand race car driving at all, but the whole, we gotta get out before that pace car comes around. They show the pace car back to the thing. Oh my God, the guy can't get the lug nut in.

Uh, I like the big, we gotta, I mean, none of us understand race car driving at all, but the whole, we gotta get out before that pace car comes around. They show the pace car back to the thing. Oh my God, the guy can't get the lug nut in.

Very fun. And then the, he's going high. He's going low. Awesome. I had this later, but I'll do this now. Now this is really good. This is almost like a social clip. So if you're the hero of a sports movie and you could pick any, any movie, what would be the single most fun scene to reenact? If you were the actor, because I would make a case winning a huge race in either Indy 500 or NASCAR.

Very fun. And then the, he's going high. He's going low. Awesome. I had this later, but I'll do this now. Now this is really good. This is almost like a social clip. So if you're the hero of a sports movie and you could pick any, any movie, what would be the single most fun scene to reenact? If you were the actor, because I would make a case winning a huge race in either Indy 500 or NASCAR.

And then you get to do the thing where they all lift you up and they pour champagne on you and you're celebrating. That seems like it would be number one. I couldn't think of another one. That would be better. Maybe, maybe a perfect game running toward the catcher and jumping into the catchers.

And then you get to do the thing where they all lift you up and they pour champagne on you and you're celebrating. That seems like it would be number one. I couldn't think of another one. That would be better. Maybe, maybe a perfect game running toward the catcher and jumping into the catchers.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What about like a game winning, like a natural Roy Hobbs wins the pennant home run try?

What about like a game winning, like a natural Roy Hobbs wins the pennant home run try?

Because then you could do like the Vanderbeek winning in varsity blues end zone celebration. Yes. You could have the Jimmy Chitwood Uh, making the, making the jumper at the top of the key to win the state title and the whole, the whole arena comes at you.

Because then you could do like the Vanderbeek winning in varsity blues end zone celebration. Yes. You could have the Jimmy Chitwood Uh, making the, making the jumper at the top of the key to win the state title and the whole, the whole arena comes at you.

This is like the kind of shit you would see in a movie about Hollywood. Yeah. That would seem like, wow, they really went for this movie. This is crazy. This actually all happened. This budget ends up being like $65 million.

This is like the kind of shit you would see in a movie about Hollywood. Yeah. That would seem like, wow, they really went for this movie. This is crazy. This actually all happened. This budget ends up being like $65 million.

Your first face is awesome. Involve all the characters. Boxing has like you win and everybody comes to the ring, but I really think racing is number one for this. Because you get all the characters in the movie, things poured on you, and you get to kiss somebody. What's the most 1990 thing about this movie? So I'll give you three choices.

Your first face is awesome. Involve all the characters. Boxing has like you win and everybody comes to the ring, but I really think racing is number one for this. Because you get all the characters in the movie, things poured on you, and you get to kiss somebody. What's the most 1990 thing about this movie? So I'll give you three choices.

Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman falling in love, which seems like it happened 130 years ago. For sponsors, we have Tide, Snickers, Skoll, and Exxon. And then Mellow Yellow. I think Exxon and Mellow Yellow being sponsors have to get there. Exxon was like, nothing can go wrong for us.

Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman falling in love, which seems like it happened 130 years ago. For sponsors, we have Tide, Snickers, Skoll, and Exxon. And then Mellow Yellow. I think Exxon and Mellow Yellow being sponsors have to get there. Exxon was like, nothing can go wrong for us.

Yeah, this is the peak. Buy the lake house.

Yeah, this is the peak. Buy the lake house.

I think, unless you guys can come up with another one, I think I have the winner. Is there anything else you think is 1990?

I think, unless you guys can come up with another one, I think I have the winner. Is there anything else you think is 1990?

It's unbelievable. The only thing that was missing was Fred Willard as the announcer going, look at that happy fella. I think I have the winner. Okay. This is just from the research verbatim. The film's theme song, Last Note of Freedom, was sung by White Snake's lead singer, David Coverdale, at the request of Tom Cruise. Fucking awesome. Yeah.

It's unbelievable. The only thing that was missing was Fred Willard as the announcer going, look at that happy fella. I think I have the winner. Okay. This is just from the research verbatim. The film's theme song, Last Note of Freedom, was sung by White Snake's lead singer, David Coverdale, at the request of Tom Cruise. Fucking awesome. Yeah.

Is there any other point in the history of America where Tom Cruise would have requested a song from White Snake's David Coverdale? No. We're looking at 88 to 90. That has to be the window, right?

Is there any other point in the history of America where Tom Cruise would have requested a song from White Snake's David Coverdale? No. We're looking at 88 to 90. That has to be the window, right?

David Coverdahl's at an Exxon wrap party and then you're just like, guys, this is going to get better for all of us.

David Coverdahl's at an Exxon wrap party and then you're just like, guys, this is going to get better for all of us.

What's aged the best? Robert Duvall is the crew chief. Rarely do you see somebody this overqualified to be in a sports movie where they actually care about the movie. Gene Hackman's in The Replacements. He's mailing it in. It's still fun. RIP Gene Hackman. Duvall's like, I actually like this character. I'm going to explore. Maybe I can steal this movie from Cruise.

What's aged the best? Robert Duvall is the crew chief. Rarely do you see somebody this overqualified to be in a sports movie where they actually care about the movie. Gene Hackman's in The Replacements. He's mailing it in. It's still fun. RIP Gene Hackman. Duvall's like, I actually like this character. I'm going to explore. Maybe I can steal this movie from Cruise.

I just think he's really good in it.

I just think he's really good in it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

give you a good restrictor plate you know like is is it a hot take to say this is a top five favorite duval movie pretty hot because he's been in a lot of good movies yeah well the other take is that this is a robert duval movie featuring tom cruise and duval wins the movie like that's that's another take because every time harry's on it's good it would be like tom's winning top gun yeah

give you a good restrictor plate you know like is is it a hot take to say this is a top five favorite duval movie pretty hot because he's been in a lot of good movies yeah well the other take is that this is a robert duval movie featuring tom cruise and duval wins the movie like that's that's another take because every time harry's on it's good it would be like tom's winning top gun yeah

The hairdos, you mentioned this is the best Cruz's hair has ever looked. Ever. I almost feel like there's been some decisions in the last couple years where he's gone to the barber slash hairstylist slash dye job person. Sure. And been like, hey, man, here's some Days of Thunder photos. How close can we get to this?

The hairdos, you mentioned this is the best Cruz's hair has ever looked. Ever. I almost feel like there's been some decisions in the last couple years where he's gone to the barber slash hairstylist slash dye job person. Sure. And been like, hey, man, here's some Days of Thunder photos. How close can we get to this?

But it looks cool. And curly hair Kidman is a special place in my heart. Yeah. Because what happens when especially really, really attractive women have hair like that, they ride it into their mid-20s, and then they start straightening it out, and they never have it again.

But it looks cool. And curly hair Kidman is a special place in my heart. Yeah. Because what happens when especially really, really attractive women have hair like that, they ride it into their mid-20s, and then they start straightening it out, and they never have it again.

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It's so good. I just thought she was lights out back then. I remember, did I ever tell you I was at a restaurant once with the great John Walsh in the early 2000s after I moved to LA. So it was probably oh three. And all of a sudden Nicole Kidman walked in and the entire restaurant stopped. And it was the only time I've ever seen that. And it stopped not because she was famous.

It's so good. I just thought she was lights out back then. I remember, did I ever tell you I was at a restaurant once with the great John Walsh in the early 2000s after I moved to LA. So it was probably oh three. And all of a sudden Nicole Kidman walked in and the entire restaurant stopped. And it was the only time I've ever seen that. And it stopped not because she was famous.

Cause she was like so beautiful.

Cause she was like so beautiful.

Everyone was like, Oh my, it was like watching like dolphins jump in the fucking ocean. It was incredible. Everyone's like, Oh my God. It's like tall. Just like great. But shit, what a great run by her. Um, two best age, the best two Oscar winners, Kidman and Duvall, like sharing actual scenes together.

Everyone was like, Oh my, it was like watching like dolphins jump in the fucking ocean. It was incredible. Everyone's like, Oh my God. It's like tall. Just like great. But shit, what a great run by her. Um, two best age, the best two Oscar winners, Kidman and Duvall, like sharing actual scenes together.

I don't think he was thinking this lady is going to be a multi Oscar nominee someday as he was banging those cold trickle scenes out with her.

I don't think he was thinking this lady is going to be a multi Oscar nominee someday as he was banging those cold trickle scenes out with her.

Come on. Cause I can't, I'm going to choose to Eric ride home. Um, John C. Reilly basically as Reed Rothschild in this movie for a website's the best. Is there any difference with him and Reed Rothschild from what we can tell?

Come on. Cause I can't, I'm going to choose to Eric ride home. Um, John C. Reilly basically as Reed Rothschild in this movie for a website's the best. Is there any difference with him and Reed Rothschild from what we can tell?

I think Paul Thomas Anderson was just like, just do the Days of Thunder guy.

I think Paul Thomas Anderson was just like, just do the Days of Thunder guy.

That story by Robert Towne and Tom Cruise.

That story by Robert Towne and Tom Cruise.

I don't think there was... Val Kilmer is probably 10 out of 10 best dicks of the 80s and 90s, but Cary Elwes was always a solid 8.5. I have two more, but do you guys have any more of what's aged best?

I don't think there was... Val Kilmer is probably 10 out of 10 best dicks of the 80s and 90s, but Cary Elwes was always a solid 8.5. I have two more, but do you guys have any more of what's aged best?

It's like trying to watch a monkey fuck a football.

It's like trying to watch a monkey fuck a football.

We've discussed this before. It's clear that he's never had a drink of alcohol in the last 40 years.

We've discussed this before. It's clear that he's never had a drink of alcohol in the last 40 years.

It would be like if I tried to film a cocaine scene and I was like,

It would be like if I tried to film a cocaine scene and I was like,

Um, two more for me. I'm more afraid of being nothing than being hurt. Great yearbook quote. Just pencil. What are we in March? We're still like handing in high school yearbooks. Throw that one in there. Somebody couple racing lessons. As I've mentioned many times, we don't really understand this world. A couple of lessons I took away. Driver has to trust his crew chief. Sure.

Um, two more for me. I'm more afraid of being nothing than being hurt. Great yearbook quote. Just pencil. What are we in March? We're still like handing in high school yearbooks. Throw that one in there. Somebody couple racing lessons. As I've mentioned many times, we don't really understand this world. A couple of lessons I took away. Driver has to trust his crew chief. Sure.

Just know that going forward. Tires win a race. It's dirty secret. Yeah. Not about the car. It's not about the driver. It's the tires. Don't have two race teams if you're the owner like Randy Quaid. You got to pick one. You're going to have tension. And then this was probably the best advice. There are calculating drivers and kamikaze drivers. Which one are you?

Just know that going forward. Tires win a race. It's dirty secret. Yeah. Not about the car. It's not about the driver. It's the tires. Don't have two race teams if you're the owner like Randy Quaid. You got to pick one. You're going to have tension. And then this was probably the best advice. There are calculating drivers and kamikaze drivers. Which one are you?

Yeah, we're coming out of the cocaine era. We're coming out of it.

Yeah, we're coming out of the cocaine era. We're coming out of it.

Can we talk about the wheelchair scene? Is it time? That's amazing. Go ahead. It's just Tony Scott being like, it's like when we were at the Masters with Chang once and he just made us a pizza out of stuff in the fridge and it was like saltines and like a tomato and some broccoli and he's like, I can make a pizza out of this. That's Tony Scott.

Can we talk about the wheelchair scene? Is it time? That's amazing. Go ahead. It's just Tony Scott being like, it's like when we were at the Masters with Chang once and he just made us a pizza out of stuff in the fridge and it was like saltines and like a tomato and some broccoli and he's like, I can make a pizza out of this. That's Tony Scott.

There was no cocaine on set. Don Simpson's trying to keep it alive. And it's that 80s excess era that's still kind of going in 89, 90. These big budget movies, a lot of sequels at this point. I was trying to think like in 2025, what would be a more sure thing idea than this was in 1990 where you have Simpson and Bruckheimer.

There was no cocaine on set. Don Simpson's trying to keep it alive. And it's that 80s excess era that's still kind of going in 89, 90. These big budget movies, a lot of sequels at this point. I was trying to think like in 2025, what would be a more sure thing idea than this was in 1990 where you have Simpson and Bruckheimer.

kind of unfair because he's coming off of born on the fourth of july so he's been in the wheelchair he has like the better part of the last two years well when i heard it wasn't in the research but i'm guessing rooker was in the four hundred thousand dollar gym just just working on a wheelchair treadmill that don simpson bought him triceps you're right getting it going i forgot to ask you guys what your most rewatchable scene was because mine is also the wheelchair scene

kind of unfair because he's coming off of born on the fourth of july so he's been in the wheelchair he has like the better part of the last two years well when i heard it wasn't in the research but i'm guessing rooker was in the four hundred thousand dollar gym just just working on a wheelchair treadmill that don simpson bought him triceps you're right getting it going i forgot to ask you guys what your most rewatchable scene was because mine is also the wheelchair scene

I actually looked this up. Mellow Yellow still exists in some markets. Do you know that? I didn't. It's still alive.

I actually looked this up. Mellow Yellow still exists in some markets. Do you know that? I didn't. It's still alive.

Yeah, it's kind of like it doesn't really work anymore, but they don't want to officially cancel it.

Yeah, it's kind of like it doesn't really work anymore, but they don't want to officially cancel it.

Sure, let's do it. Okay, that wins.

Sure, let's do it. Okay, that wins.

Great shot. Gorder Award for most cinematic shots. You have one, CR?

Great shot. Gorder Award for most cinematic shots. You have one, CR?

In the 4K Blu-ray, he actually had them add six inches to his height in that scene. Yeah, they're the same height. CR, you're up with a flex category from categories we don't normally have.

In the 4K Blu-ray, he actually had them add six inches to his height in that scene. Yeah, they're the same height. CR, you're up with a flex category from categories we don't normally have.

That's good. I like that one. The Butcher's Girlfriend Award, weak link of the film. What do you got, Kyle?

That's good. I like that one. The Butcher's Girlfriend Award, weak link of the film. What do you got, Kyle?

and a red, red, red, red hot Tom Cruise basically redoing Top Gun with race cars. There's no scenario where somebody could be like, all right, it's going to be, let's say, Chalamet.

and a red, red, red, red hot Tom Cruise basically redoing Top Gun with race cars. There's no scenario where somebody could be like, all right, it's going to be, let's say, Chalamet.

Right. I had the, I had right after the middle of the movie, I think at craters for about 25 minutes, uh, Rowdy's battle with a career-ending injury. Just kill him off. Cole's road rage incident and her being like, nobody has control. Every scene where Claire is mad at Cole or they're trying to establish some sort of tension with them, it just doesn't work.

Right. I had the, I had right after the middle of the movie, I think at craters for about 25 minutes, uh, Rowdy's battle with a career-ending injury. Just kill him off. Cole's road rage incident and her being like, nobody has control. Every scene where Claire is mad at Cole or they're trying to establish some sort of tension with them, it just doesn't work.

Heartbreak fits good in a place like this. I like moving the crash later. I think that's a good idea. I would also, you could have talked to me in a Harry stealth cancer battle. Ooh. That Chris finds out about when they have the big back and forth in the end.

Heartbreak fits good in a place like this. I like moving the crash later. I think that's a good idea. I would also, you could have talked to me in a Harry stealth cancer battle. Ooh. That Chris finds out about when they have the big back and forth in the end.

Yeah, just like a little, yeah, a little Creed one. Something's wrong with Harry and he doesn't want to tell Cole and Cole finds out. I think this movie's better off with Rowdy just dies. Mm-hmm. We lose all those scenes. Yeah. They goose. We did. We basically, and they probably didn't want to do it because they didn't want to have the goose parallel, but we have that.

Yeah, just like a little, yeah, a little Creed one. Something's wrong with Harry and he doesn't want to tell Cole and Cole finds out. I think this movie's better off with Rowdy just dies. Mm-hmm. We lose all those scenes. Yeah. They goose. We did. We basically, and they probably didn't want to do it because they didn't want to have the goose parallel, but we have that.

So that's where they do the line.

So that's where they do the line.

Hey, now we get to do the Elizabeth shoe is an Oxford electrochemist award for most ridiculous casting. A lot of options, but it's hard to pass 23-year-old Nicole Kidman as Charlotte's best neurosurgeon. Second best. She's got a boss.

Hey, now we get to do the Elizabeth shoe is an Oxford electrochemist award for most ridiculous casting. A lot of options, but it's hard to pass 23-year-old Nicole Kidman as Charlotte's best neurosurgeon. Second best. She's got a boss.

It's going to be Chalamet. Okay, who is a producer that was more reliable at this point than Simpson Bruckheimer? I can't think of one. What's the sport that hasn't been dove into like this? I can't, like, Kyle, I don't, I just think this is like a one-on-one in a weird way, even though the movie's not great.

It's going to be Chalamet. Okay, who is a producer that was more reliable at this point than Simpson Bruckheimer? I can't think of one. What's the sport that hasn't been dove into like this? I can't, like, Kyle, I don't, I just think this is like a one-on-one in a weird way, even though the movie's not great.

What was a more unrealistic character, her or Kelly Lynch in Roadhouse, if you had to guess? Most unrealistic, why are you living in this part of the world and why are you this good at your job?

What was a more unrealistic character, her or Kelly Lynch in Roadhouse, if you had to guess? Most unrealistic, why are you living in this part of the world and why are you this good at your job?

Way to do it.

Way to do it.

Right. But she, I mean, she looks like a kid in this movie anyway.

Right. But she, I mean, she looks like a kid in this movie anyway.

What's aged the worst? The video game for this movie stunk. I just wanted to get that on record. I had it. It's terrible. Bad. Really disappointing during an era where our expectations for video games were starting to go up. And this was bad. And in general, most driving video games were bad in the 80s and 90s. But this one, I feel like that. You spend $100 million.

What's aged the worst? The video game for this movie stunk. I just wanted to get that on record. I had it. It's terrible. Bad. Really disappointing during an era where our expectations for video games were starting to go up. And this was bad. And in general, most driving video games were bad in the 80s and 90s. But this one, I feel like that. You spend $100 million.

You fucking build a gym for Simpson and Bruckheimer. You can't have a good video game, CR. Come on.

You fucking build a gym for Simpson and Bruckheimer. You can't have a good video game, CR. Come on.

Well, arcade wise, pole position was great. Yeah. Pole position was iconic for five, six years. And Days of Thunder at least should have had an awesome arcade game with Cruz's face on it. Like, I don't know how they fucked that up.

Well, arcade wise, pole position was great. Yeah. Pole position was iconic for five, six years. And Days of Thunder at least should have had an awesome arcade game with Cruz's face on it. Like, I don't know how they fucked that up.

Oh, yeah, Outrun was dope.