Kyle Cheney

I think the courts have absolutely played a role in slowing down some of the most extreme aspects of President Trump's policies.

But again, because as I said, they're doing so much so fast, the courts are barely keeping up.

And as you said, you know, when they're finding loopholes in ways to get around court rulings to sort of push the same policies, they're doing that.

But we've seen things like one example I didn't mention was the deployment of the National Guard to major cities.

They actually lost at the Supreme Court on that.

And so they started withdrawing.

some of these deployments.

You know, we've seen them lose on issues of due process in cases of certain deportations.

Again, not the large-scale deportations that we're seeing the Supreme Court has largely blessed, but in certain examples of, you know, what due process are people owed before they can be scooped up and sent overseas.

So the courts are making a dent, but as you said, it's sort of hit and miss.

It's a patchwork, I guess, is developing.

Yeah.

Well, if anything, you know, I think we've seen the president rely on the Supreme Court to uphold his agenda.

I think he's feeling more confident now that he will get what he wants from them, except most interestingly, and probably for your audience in particular, the tariff issue, which is, you know, we could get a ruling on that.

any moment.

And I think the president expects to lose on that based on the tenor of the arguments and a increasingly frantic set of social media posts where he says, if I lose my ability to tariff our trading partners at will, it's going to destroy our country, destroy our national security.

We'll never recover.

We'll have to give hundreds of billions of dollars back and it will just devastate us.

I think that's a sign that he's not confident about where the court's going to end up.

So