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Kyle Harper

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age — Kyle Harper

There's like things about modern slavery that's really important to understand.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age — Kyle Harper

Those are different but not just because slavery is there.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age — Kyle Harper

Like slavery has this longer history and slavery is more important in some societies than others.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age — Kyle Harper

And we want to try and understand that to ask why and then what implications does that have for understanding those societies.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age — Kyle Harper

Rome is one of those societies.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age — Kyle Harper

Slavery is really –

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age — Kyle Harper

a prominent institution in Rome from the late Republic.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age — Kyle Harper

As the Romans conquer other parts of the Mediterranean, they start taking captives as slaves en masse, and they build an economy that really relies on slave labor in important sectors of the economy.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age — Kyle Harper

So plantations where commodities like wine, olive oil...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age — Kyle Harper

are produced for market exchange that allow landowners to amass enormous amounts of wealth.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age — Kyle Harper

So slavery becomes this really important institution that's entangled in the development of the Roman economy from

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age — Kyle Harper

you know, maybe the third or second century BCE.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age — Kyle Harper

And then with ups and downs and really important changes along the way for centuries and centuries.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age — Kyle Harper

I'm very big proponent of the idea that you have to have both, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age — Kyle Harper

You have to have a source of slaves.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age — Kyle Harper

And after the conquest stops,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age — Kyle Harper

the Romans figure out other sources of slaves.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age — Kyle Harper

And if anything, the demand is equally or perhaps even more important, because if there's not a mechanism, if there's not institutions that let you turn this kind of exploitation into cash flow, the institution's not going to go very far.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age — Kyle Harper

And so it really is the institutions, the presence of markets where you can

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age — Kyle Harper

You can take labor and turn it into profit.