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Kyle Harper

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age β€” Kyle Harper

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age β€” Kyle Harper

Arthropod or insect vectors are really annoyingly helpful to certain pathogens.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age β€” Kyle Harper

And most – there's actually a relatively small number of diseases that are transmitted through a vector like this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age β€” Kyle Harper

But they tend to be really, really nasty like malaria, typhus.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age β€” Kyle Harper

And they can kind of get away with it because even if like you're dying –

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age β€” Kyle Harper

You know, a mosquito can come and bite you and transmit malaria to me.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age β€” Kyle Harper

Plague is a vector-borne disease, and it's very, very well adapted to transmit, particularly by fleas, but we think also maybe by lice and other biting organisms.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age β€” Kyle Harper

But really by fleas, it's really, really good at transmitting by fleas.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age β€” Kyle Harper

And that's evolution.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age β€” Kyle Harper

Actually, this is one of the cool things with ancient DNA.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age β€” Kyle Harper

We've been able to, like, piece together at the, like, absolute molecular level the

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age β€” Kyle Harper

The genetic changes that let it make this protein that like have this effect in fleas.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age β€” Kyle Harper

It's really weird.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age β€” Kyle Harper

It forms this biofilm in the gut of the flea that like chokes it and makes the flea feel like it's starving.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age β€” Kyle Harper

And so the flea just starts feeding and feeding and feeding.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age β€” Kyle Harper

And meanwhile, it's regurgitating bacteria.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age β€” Kyle Harper

We can talk about zombies, but that's aβ€”we need to wind up for that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age β€” Kyle Harper

Okay, so one, fleaβ€”so the plague is vector-borne, and it's really, really good at, like, manipulating the fleas, and it's just evolution.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age β€” Kyle Harper

Two, I said this before, but it's an animal disease.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age β€” Kyle Harper

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