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Kyle Harper

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

It's just like this terrible luck that makes it what it is.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

And so to me, like there's going to be another pandemic, you know, maybe bird flu, maybe something else.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

But like โ€“

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

It's the real, real outliers and the weird ones that we should maybe worry about a little bit more than we do.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

If you want to go to zombies, I'll go there.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

You don't have to twist my arm too hard.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

But prion diseases or fungal diseases where we don't have nearly the same infrastructure and level of knowledge, biomedical research, as we do for bacterial and viral diseases.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

You know, something โ€“ if we create the incentive, evolution is going to find some weird ways to exploit it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

And it's not just transmissibility and virulence.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

Those are like two really basic parameters.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

But, you know, when you look at even COVID-19, part of what made it insidious is it just has just the right parameters to be latent for just long enough.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

Like the first COVID, SARS-CoV-1, 2003.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

slightly more virulent.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

And in fact, it was just more virulent enough that it made you sick pretty quick.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

And just that little difference was enough to contain it because you could figure out who was sick.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

COVID-19 was impossible to contain because it took, you know, several days before you really presented with clinical illness.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

And it's just that little quirk that made it totally impossible to control through non-pharmaceutical interventions early on.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

And so, like,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

you know, follow that train of thought, pathogens are going to find ways to take advantage.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

And there may be, you know, pathogens that push the limits on latency that can be very, very hard to control.