Kyle Harper

He's not building like pumps.

But the guys who are –

Are like his friends.

And they're in and around the Royal Society.

And they're absolutely – I mean look at Denis Pepin who's a French engineer who's like very much in the circle of like Leibniz and the like very high abstract mathematics is trying to build like vacuum pumps.

And the proximity of like high math, high science, very abstract with the –

What is ultimately going to be the sectors that lead to mechanization where then you can harness this new source of energy or this – not new source of energy.

This sort of source of energy that is there all along but hasn't been tapped in coal.

That's what catalyzes the big positive – cyclopositive feedbacks.

don't have is that.

What the Romans do have is the kind of specialization.

And now that we look for it, it's there.

When you look at food processing, which is a huge sector, the way that they build mills, there's definitely improvements.

But there's never the catalytic change where you get runaway positive feedbacks.

Well, I mean, I'm super interested in the history of math.

It'd be sort of like...

What happens after Euclid?

Because it's very hard to say, but you get like these really interesting people like pop up like Diophantus who's later is in the Roman – early Roman Empire.

But like there's still like really interesting math going on.

And I mean Euclid is incredible.