Kyle Risdahl

It was eight, nine-ish years ago.

Honestly, I kind of forget.

But you had worked on a book.

You had done research for a book and co-written a book called The Financial Diaries in which you gained some insight into sort of this mirage of economic stability that people have.

And also, and this is important, I think, these grants that Canary is able to give are not huge.

I mean, $1,000 is a lot of money, but in the grand scheme of things, $1,000 goes a very long way and is not that much money.

Sorry, usefully large?

That's interesting.

I hadn't heard that.

Right.

There is a phrase that I came across while reading up on on you and this company that that struck me and maybe is a good way to go out.

What you are doing here is to borrow a phrase from both you and the health care industry.

You are doing palliative care.

You're not fixing the structural problems.

Rachel Schneider is the CEO, also the founder of Canary.

Rachel, thanks for your time.

I appreciate it.

Living the dream.

But first, let's do the numbers.

Dow Industrials down 166 today, about a third of 1%.