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Kyler Brown

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The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

We need to do a ton more quick work with you that's deloaded to train all those tendons. I mean, there are so many tendons in the lower leg and the ankle. We need to train all those tendons to get quick and stiff in different positions so you don't jam the joint or create a stress in the tendon. Should I be doing less barefoot activity? No, I don't think so at all.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

We need to do a ton more quick work with you that's deloaded to train all those tendons. I mean, there are so many tendons in the lower leg and the ankle. We need to train all those tendons to get quick and stiff in different positions so you don't jam the joint or create a stress in the tendon. Should I be doing less barefoot activity? No, I don't think so at all.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

I think that's a pathway to frailty. You want to stimulate the receptors in the bottom of your foot. Do I want you running on like a river barefoot with sharp rocks? No, because that's going to cause other problems. But I think having you barefoot makes your foot mobile and strong. But then if we piggyback that with this specific type of training for where your gaps are, it's a huge payoff.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

I think that's a pathway to frailty. You want to stimulate the receptors in the bottom of your foot. Do I want you running on like a river barefoot with sharp rocks? No, because that's going to cause other problems. But I think having you barefoot makes your foot mobile and strong. But then if we piggyback that with this specific type of training for where your gaps are, it's a huge payoff.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

Let's look at the other side. Most people don't have your situation. More often than not, people have a really rigid foot that's weak and stiff. So we're actually going with a whole other direction where we're trying to get motion in the foot. We're teaching that foot to separate rear foot and forefoot. How do those people present? What's the pain or what's the injury they present with?

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

Let's look at the other side. Most people don't have your situation. More often than not, people have a really rigid foot that's weak and stiff. So we're actually going with a whole other direction where we're trying to get motion in the foot. We're teaching that foot to separate rear foot and forefoot. How do those people present? What's the pain or what's the injury they present with?

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

Interestingly, they actually get a lot of symptoms up the chain. Our foot has so many bones and all these articulations where we're supposed to comply to the ground. If that shock absorption goes away, like let's say I'm wearing these big goofy running shoes that they sell now that have the rocker where it's all just like patching holes in the boat rather than optimizing movement.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

Interestingly, they actually get a lot of symptoms up the chain. Our foot has so many bones and all these articulations where we're supposed to comply to the ground. If that shock absorption goes away, like let's say I'm wearing these big goofy running shoes that they sell now that have the rocker where it's all just like patching holes in the boat rather than optimizing movement.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

If we have a foot that is stiff, those force factors go up through the body. So now my knees, my hips, and my spine have to figure out that force distribution because one of my best shock absorbers is the foot and the ankle. If that's not doing its job, everything else pays the price. So I see a lot of people, let's say the soleus is weak, their lower part of their calf.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

If we have a foot that is stiff, those force factors go up through the body. So now my knees, my hips, and my spine have to figure out that force distribution because one of my best shock absorbers is the foot and the ankle. If that's not doing its job, everything else pays the price. So I see a lot of people, let's say the soleus is weak, their lower part of their calf.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

So that control of their tibia as either walk or lunge isn't there. So that ankle just walks up and then they send all that force to their knee. That's why one of my favorites is anyone with a chronic knee issue, I'm going right at that foot and ankle first. Because if the foot and ankle isn't up to the task, then my knee is going to take a beating.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

So that control of their tibia as either walk or lunge isn't there. So that ankle just walks up and then they send all that force to their knee. That's why one of my favorites is anyone with a chronic knee issue, I'm going right at that foot and ankle first. Because if the foot and ankle isn't up to the task, then my knee is going to take a beating.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

I mean, it's a good theory, but absolutely. Yeah. You're really good, wide, mobile feet. Your knees gets to be a knee.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

I mean, it's a good theory, but absolutely. Yeah. You're really good, wide, mobile feet. Your knees gets to be a knee.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

If that rotation, that pivot joint that's supposed to happen at the ankle isn't pronounced to the amount you want and it isn't mobile enough, then that knee and that force vector is going to happen at the upper tibia and the femur where now you start to get these little meniscus things that showed up out of nowhere. That torsion has to happen somewhere.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

If that rotation, that pivot joint that's supposed to happen at the ankle isn't pronounced to the amount you want and it isn't mobile enough, then that knee and that force vector is going to happen at the upper tibia and the femur where now you start to get these little meniscus things that showed up out of nowhere. That torsion has to happen somewhere.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

Yeah, I love what you just showed there. The graph is always going to have peaks and valleys. When your brain perceives threat, whatever that could be, maybe your dad hurt himself playing football, so you're scared to play football. But when your brain perceives threat, not only is your heightened awareness up, your nervous system is kicked up, but we're more sensitive to pain.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

Yeah, I love what you just showed there. The graph is always going to have peaks and valleys. When your brain perceives threat, whatever that could be, maybe your dad hurt himself playing football, so you're scared to play football. But when your brain perceives threat, not only is your heightened awareness up, your nervous system is kicked up, but we're more sensitive to pain.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

So certain things hurt more when we're ill or when we're stressed than if we're not. And if we stick to just movement themselves, a lot of people are afraid of certain movements because it hurt me in the past, or they heard it could hurt them, or maybe they just haven't done it a long time, so they're nervous about it.

The Peter Attia Drive
#350 ‒ Injury prevention, recovery, and performance optimization for every decade | Kyler Brown, D.C.

So certain things hurt more when we're ill or when we're stressed than if we're not. And if we stick to just movement themselves, a lot of people are afraid of certain movements because it hurt me in the past, or they heard it could hurt them, or maybe they just haven't done it a long time, so they're nervous about it.