Lachlan Waugh

He was a defender.

He was Belgian.

He used to come off the bench quite regularly, but he was their captain.

Well, he'll move into serious load management soon in the way that, like, Richie McCaw had just a whole break at the start of 2013 or something, didn't he?

He didn't take a whole year off.

Yeah, he did.

And just to compare in terms of time months, Richard McCaw debuted in 2001.

And then when he started taking some time off, that was around 2012, 13.

So that's about 12 years.

Artie debuted for the All Blacks in what, 2016, 2017?

So yeah, maybe after the World Cup, he'll start to look at taking care of his body.

If he wants to extend himself to a fourth World Cup, which would be great.

But yeah, he's still playing at a high level.

I would think that until you start to really endure some serious injuries or your body really is breaking down in the way that someone like Kobe Bryant was at the end of his career, or Richie or Dan Carter, of course, you can keep playing as much as you want because wouldn't you want to keep yourself conditioned and match condition?

All, except for, well, I'd say except for Christchurch, but we all like to try and pick out things we don't like.

I'm just not a fan of the fact that they've done the same thing with Forsyth Bar and they've taken out that stand at the end.

And it's obviously for concerts.

It just looks a bit weird, doesn't it?

It does.

I'd like it if it was just all the way around.