Lady Gaga
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And it was justβ It was really special. I mean, I guess what I'm trying to say is I knew Michael was genuine because he wanted to be my friend. He wasn't asking to go to things with me or like... I don't know how to explain it. How do you explain the thing that people do that's hard? He didn't want to do any of the things that the other people wanted to do. He wanted to take walks with me.
And it was justβ It was really special. I mean, I guess what I'm trying to say is I knew Michael was genuine because he wanted to be my friend. He wasn't asking to go to things with me or like... I don't know how to explain it. How do you explain the thing that people do that's hard? He didn't want to do any of the things that the other people wanted to do. He wanted to take walks with me.
He took me rock climbing. Well, because I also had like a... a pain condition that I still have. But, you know, he had this belief that I could get better and he really inspired me to have more hope about it. So, and you know, the truth is Michael really is like not a fan of the spotlight.
He took me rock climbing. Well, because I also had like a... a pain condition that I still have. But, you know, he had this belief that I could get better and he really inspired me to have more hope about it. So, and you know, the truth is Michael really is like not a fan of the spotlight.
He had a really hard time with the cameras when we first started dating and he kind of got comfortable with it for me so that we could do it together. So, Yeah, I guess I know Michael's genuine because he's my friend.
He had a really hard time with the cameras when we first started dating and he kind of got comfortable with it for me so that we could do it together. So, Yeah, I guess I know Michael's genuine because he's my friend.
Yeah, thank you. I'm glad I found it too. It was really hard not having it. It's like not a good feeling to have so much trouble making friends. That was really hard for me over the course of my career. Being actually friends with somebody, it's like a very specific thing, right?
Yeah, thank you. I'm glad I found it too. It was really hard not having it. It's like not a good feeling to have so much trouble making friends. That was really hard for me over the course of my career. Being actually friends with somebody, it's like a very specific thing, right?
It's like when you can sit in a room together and not talk and read and you can take long walks and talk about your family. You can obsess over a new recipe and go to the grocery store and go make it. Friendship is not about like... And I don't think it should be transactional, but I think I just was around a lot of that all the time. I was kind of like starved for it.
It's like when you can sit in a room together and not talk and read and you can take long walks and talk about your family. You can obsess over a new recipe and go to the grocery store and go make it. Friendship is not about like... And I don't think it should be transactional, but I think I just was around a lot of that all the time. I was kind of like starved for it.
So it's a big blessing that I met someone that was not like that. And it's good for the music too, you know?
So it's a big blessing that I met someone that was not like that. And it's good for the music too, you know?
Yeah, I mean, that's the lore, right? And some of it's truth, right? People say artists make their best work when we're tortured, but I would really like to do away with that, actually. I think it's super unhealthy for the world. And I think I've made some of my best work and I'm happy and healthy because I have all my faculties as a musician, right?
Yeah, I mean, that's the lore, right? And some of it's truth, right? People say artists make their best work when we're tortured, but I would really like to do away with that, actually. I think it's super unhealthy for the world. And I think I've made some of my best work and I'm happy and healthy because I have all my faculties as a musician, right?
I also think that romanticizing sick artists, it perpetuates this thing that's super negative, and especially for women. I want women to feel like they can be healthy and be happy, that we will celebrate them in their health. But you're right. That is definitely a thing. I feel really grateful that I'm still here.
I also think that romanticizing sick artists, it perpetuates this thing that's super negative, and especially for women. I want women to feel like they can be healthy and be happy, that we will celebrate them in their health. But you're right. That is definitely a thing. I feel really grateful that I'm still here.
I definitely think that my life could have been very different maybe over five years ago. I think I was in a really dark place. And I wouldn't say I made my best music during that time. At all. So for what it's worth, coming from me, I'm not the only artist that ever lived. But from my experience, the hardest times in my life were not the best music I ever made.
I definitely think that my life could have been very different maybe over five years ago. I think I was in a really dark place. And I wouldn't say I made my best music during that time. At all. So for what it's worth, coming from me, I'm not the only artist that ever lived. But from my experience, the hardest times in my life were not the best music I ever made.
I don't know. Yeah, sometimes. Maybe like a song here or there. Maybe I was feeling deeply insecure. Or, you know, I think Chromatica was really hard for me. That was a very authentic dance record that I'm very proud of. And I loved working on that. But it was just a hard time in my life. I think it's hard to feel deeply authentic when you don't feel well.