Larissa Waters

That's not real change.

That's a fig leaf.

It's culture war shit.

It's culture war shit that doesn't help anyone.

I am a natural optimist.

That's good.

And even in the face of all evidence to the contrary, I believe we can have better because we deserve better.

And I really believe in the power of the collective.

Like, yes, the system is going to fight hard and resist change, but this is a democracy.

The 99% are powerful.

We've just been told that we're not and that nothing can change and that we can't have nice things.

No, we can and we will, but we're going to have to work for it.

So that's what we'll keep doing every single day.

There's an election in a couple of years' time and we're going to be there and we're going to be putting that hope message out there and hearing people's anger and frustration and then making sure we can use it to get system change.

Just one more question.

What are your thoughts?

Well, look, I mean technically she's in the wrong house.

You've got to be in the House of Representatives to be Prime Minister.

I don't think that people will be fooled for long.

I think they're really looking elsewhere because they're fed up with the political system and it doesn't work for them and that's right.