Larry Birkhead

And then she was fighting forever for his estate to get what she said he promised her.

And that was going on and on and on.

And she had talked a little bit about that.

I didn't get into too much because here's the problem.

You know, when I first came to her house, she was quick to let me know I was a member of the press.

And that in her head, she couldn't get past that in a sense.

Like I think she liked me and she knew she, she saw I had good qualities.

I think, I don't know.

Um, but I think that she would, and maybe it was a jab or something.

She's like, Oh yeah.

She goes, you know, you're a, you're a photographer, you're a reporter.

Um,

I got to be careful what I say around you.

And I'm like, no, you don't.

And it took me a while to get over that hump of building that trust up with her.

And I saw things, a lot of crazy stuff.

I witnessed stuff in the house that just, and I also was privy to things that weren't like as crazy, but things that

I'm sure any magazine would print if I wanted to talk about it, you know?

And I, and I felt like I w it was a test I was having to pass or something.

Sure.