Larry Birkhead

And in between that, you know, obviously we had our own personal time, but in the house when that was happening, like Howard slept on the couch below, which we auctioned, thank God we got rid of it.

But Anna's room was right above that.

You know, and everybody kind of had a room and stuff.

And so he really didn't have room, but he would stay around and stuff.

And it was like a little bit uneasy for me because like he'd bring the dogs in, the dogs want to see you again.

I'm like, okay, you know, and here's what we're doing today.

And some of it was necessary, but some of it I think was kind of like to get in there to figure out what we were doing and stuff.

But in his defense, and it took me a while to kind of like,

I don't want to say mature up, but also to kind of reflect on it.

He was the cleanup man for a lot of the past stuff.

Right.

For her relationship.

So I don't want to make excuses for him because in the moment it hurt what he was doing to me, hurt like my feelings and hurt like, you know, the relationship and it suffered because of it.

But on the flip side of things, if you look at from his perspective where, you know, could he sit back and watch this person take advantage of Anna if he thought or whatever?

I don't know.

I mean, maybe I'm giving him too much credit.

I don't know what somebody else might say.

I try to see everything from both sides, but I do know that it became difficult to just exist in the relationship with her.

And it wasn't just him.

It was literally like when people would come over, there was like, I mean, there's like, um, um,