Larry Birkhead

He was a really, really, really good kid.

And I think that...

super shy you know if you ever watch the show and you know and then finally they took him off the show and then he he did homeschool and stuff and there was some kind of like you know tension whether he should be on the show or not and he didn't want to and then you know as he got older and when i came into the picture he was kind of warming up to like even doing some modeling and some things like that

and kind of coming out of his shell a little bit, but he was like super quiet to himself.

But I would go down because he was the only person in the house that I could talk to who would talk to me at some points, because we got to a point in the house that when you went to the kitchen,

and you got something to eat, you were not supposed to talk to the person you saw in the hallway.

It's like, don't talk to her.

You don't talk to him.

Because she was telling people in the house different stuff.

I got it.

So she didn't want anybody to compare notes to what she was telling them.

So...

Yeah.

Well, they did.

The people, the employees had to.

Right.

That's what I mean.

Maybe her son.

But like she would actually get to the point where sometimes like she would come to me and I would listen to her talk to employees in the house and she'd say, you're back talking to me.

And then, you know, fast forward to us and, you know, in the bedroom or wherever.