Larry Harris

There's no agenda.

These two guys, if they walk into a room, you know how some people are like, who's the most important person in the room?

Who has the most money?

I'm going to go talk to them.

They're going to talk to everybody.

Give you a perfect example.

I'm trying to get better at that.

Well, you're big time.

You're, you know, it's, and it's, it could be a life, you know, it's, it could be a lifetime challenge for you.

But there, you know, there are therapy.

and it never goes well yeah yeah well you know what you got to work on that i've tried there are there are therapy sessions they do have those and out in california i'm sure there's a lot of people to be willing to sit down with you on a couch and help you why would i sit down on a couch when i can be in a chair like this with you right now yeah there is the stubbornness in you or what yes but i would say this getting back to what we really the question you really asked right now because we did that we could segue into you and that that could we could talk for hours

and get nowhere um but i would say this with with mike we were at a team dinner we have a number of people here with the staff um and so generally you would go into those staff dinners and the kind of the main front office guys kind of sit together and the and the people that are kind of learning kind of sit together mike's the type of person that goes from each table or ever and sits in each group i'm gonna say that most people in his position don't do that

He's genuine.

Bob's the same way.

Yet they're both very competitive internally.

Like you wouldn't see it when you talk to them, but sit at a game with them and you really need kind of some heavy armor and like a flak jacket and some kind of padding because they're either elbowing you or they're making noises that don't sound comfortable coming out of a human being.

But that's what people don't really see, the competitive that those two guys, they're very funny.

They've got great sense of humor, great families, great.

And, you know, it's been a joy working for both of them.

Now, look, full transparency, Mike was 12 years old, and I was babysitting him in Milwaukee when I worked for his father.