Larry Sanger

I don't know what Wikipedia's policy is now, but it used to be something that I approved of, which is that...

As soon as there's a conviction, then the person can be referred to as a murderer.

But of course, you would also want to say if the person maintains his innocence that

Yeah, something to that effect.

I suppose.

And let's just put it this way.

When you actually start taking neutrality seriously, then such questions like the one that you ask, well, was it a properly constituted tribunal?

I mean, I think so.

But maybe not everybody does.

Does that have a bearing on...

The application of neutrality policy.

Well, all of those things need to be debated.

And I'm not saying that they're obvious and straightforward.

People can have good faith disagreements about how to solve such problems.

But something like that, that Gaza genocide article simply cannot be debated.

Justified for the very simple and straightforward reason that, you know, the people who are involved and a lot of other people outside are disagree with the description.

So I do want to.

acknowledge that it's not easy, of course, right?

But it's, there are clearer examples and less clear examples.

And this is one of the clearer examples.