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Larry Sanger

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
651 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

Abolish the blacklists.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

Okay, so get rid of the perennial sources page.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

It began as an essay, if I'm not mistaken, and so it should be made a subpage of the person who ever started it.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

And then you simply say that if there is a source which is not

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

supported, that is regarded by many Wikipedians as not reliable, et cetera, then you, when there is a claim made in such a source, depending on the circumstances,

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

It can be made, but it has to be attributed to the source.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

And the other side obviously should be given an opportunity to respond with its own sources as needed.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

Which is what we have been speaking about.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

So I don't really think that's necessary to go into any more detail about that.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

But that particular article, each of these has an article that it's linked to.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

That particular article is good as a sort of introduction to the issues involved.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

Right, so number five, repeal, ignore all rules.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

So yeah, in the early weeks of Wikipedia, there were a lot of people who were shy and not bold enough about making edits, which you really have to be if you're going to work on a wiki.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

And so I was encouraging them by saying, be bold in updating pages and so forth.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

And one of the other things that I said is ignore all rules.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

If rules make you nervous and not desirous of participating in the wiki, then ignore them and go about your business.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

That's essentially the original wording.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

And the whole idea is a tongue-in-cheek expression of our good faith trust in people to get things right, more or less.

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

And if they actually do...

Camp Gagnon
Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

You know, step over the line somehow.