Larry Sanger

So some of the murder scenes that have been discovered and some of the...

testimony given later by victims say that these acts of child were done as part of satanic rituals or occult rituals or whatever you want to call them, but sort of these pseudo-religious rituals.

Which sounds crazy, right?

Of course.

But if you actually look into it in mainstream sources, it's reported over and over and over again.

I would have dismissed before, you know, 2019, again, I would have dismissed a lot of it as satanic panic, as it was called back in the 1980s and 90s.

But clearly there's something there.

You know, over and over we see many instances of this connection between people with these bizarre worldviews or what I would call bizarre worldviews.

And, you know, organized child.

I don't expect people who are listening.

to this if you've never been acquainted with this sort of thing.

Of course, I think your listeners already know about it.

Yeah.

So he said, if you really want to understand what's going on and fight against it, then what you need to do is, you know, read these books.

And he came up with, he would like keep throwing me these different books.

And a lot of them, some of them were just like interesting fiction, you know, but some of them were

dark and disturbing like Helena Blavatsky or Aleister Crowley or, you know, who's that Freemason guy, Albert Pike.

I started reading a little bit, you know, didn't get past the introduction, I suppose, of these sorts of things.

And I always had the notion, because again, philosophically, I am a skeptic.

So I don't like, of course, I don't believe these things.