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Larry Sanger

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651 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

And of course, people can make and adopt a free version of an LLM and then negotiate about exactly what the prompts should be and that sort of thing.

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Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

And then, yeah, and then the rating then would be reasonably useful, I think.

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Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

I won't go into the details why I think so, but I've tested it.

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Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

Yeah.

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Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

Yes, often that's the reason.

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Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

Sometimes it's just because they're cussed and they don't like somebody and they just say, get rid of them and they're gone forever.

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Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

And yeah, it's a big problem because it is a way for the inner circle to exclude people that they don't like who are not falling in line.

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Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

Exactly.

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Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

So, throughout its history, Wikipedia has had a very...

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Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

slow method of making any sort of changes.

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Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

There have been changes, but they tend to be very incremental.

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Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

And so there hasn't been any really radical change to Wikipedia apart from

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Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

this sort of redefinition of words like neutrality or reconceptualization of the policies about reliable sources, that sort of thing.

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Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

But if you wanted to allow multiple competing articles, for example, there really isn't any

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Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

good way to have that discussion and to adopt it.

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Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

There is such a zeal about sticking to the current system, whatever it is, that anybody who disagrees with it

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Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

is sort of shoved out or leaves in disgust.

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Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

And having a legislative process would then allow a lot more creativity.

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Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

We could start considering important new policies

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Wikipedia Co-Creator Reveals All: Secret Editors, Banning Content, & Ignoring Rules

So I put it last, but in some ways it actually comes first.