Larry Schweikert

They decide to do it right before they kind of go... They've gone ashore to explore, but before they actually go ashore to actually do the settlement, because they've got a lot of people on board who are not dissenters or are not part of their religious group.

They've got some people just on for the ride.

They're going to start.

In fact, I think...

The majority of the people were there that were not part of their group.

I got a minute here, and then I'm going to continue on the next segment.

Is that basically the framework of the story when they sit down and say, hey, we have to have some governing document that sets this up?

Exactly.

The Mayflower Compact set up three major things.

First of all, it said we're loyal to the king.

We're not being disloyal.

We got blown off course.

We didn't mean to violate your will here.

The second thing was the people we call strangers who are not Puritans, they are equal to us in all political rights, and therefore they are going to have an equal part

in the polity of the country.

And then the third thing was they needed to elect a leader.

And that in itself was remarkable that they elected their leader.

There's that common law bottom up impetus right there off the bat that they believe that they and not the company in England were to select their own leader.

Larry Schweikert, I would say in my mind, particularly for the MAGA movement and for the populist nationalists, our greatest living historian and a fascinating guy and a guy who understands the nuts and bolts and the mechanics of modern, how do I call it, the grassroots politics.

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