Larry Schweikert

You know, for a while in Massachusetts, they had sumptuary laws, which said we don't want people flaunting their wealth, because even if you're wealthy, it's just not ethically right to kind of rub it in other people's faces.

So they would go about their lives doing that, and it affected everything all the way through

our history.

For example, I'm sure you've heard this many times, the famous John Adams quotation that says that our system of government is meant for a holy religious people and won't work with anybody else.

Except that's not true.

The Constitution, in fact, was a document designed specifically for unholy and sinful people with every single check and balance and limitation you could possibly put on it because the founders didn't trust people.

It's quite the opposite of a government built for a holy people where you could trust everybody to do the right thing.

And you get up into the Civil War era, for example, and you see people like Louis Tappan, a devout Christian who's also a leader in the abolitionist movement because he believes that all men are and ought to be free, as Lincoln would say.

So I think it infuses our entire culture for almost the first 200 years.

Is it today, as you've seen it with, you know, we've had mass.

One of the things we fight for here every day is a moratorium on immigration, at least a 10 year moratorium.

I'm talking about legal immigration.

You've got to be zero illegal.

We want to take legal down for 10 years.

Given that we've had since Reagan, really predating it, since Kennedy's.

uh bill the immigration bill in 1964 which was catastrophic for this country it had bigger impact in the civil rights legislation and the voting rights which everybody focuses on from that time but this more fun much more fundamentally changing country then exacerbated by president reagan and and really the advisors around president reagan i don't totally disagree with you but he was fed a lot of bad information he was fed a lot of bad information at the time um

Given that, is the mass immigration, has it been, has it so changed the construct of the country?

And I'm not just talking about race, but I'm talking about the understanding of the underpinnings of the spiritual side of the Judeo-Christian West, that we can't possibly be still in a covenant, was it an age of the covenant, sir?

Yeah, it has definitely changed that, certainly, especially as you get people from non-Christian faiths, Muslims, a lot of Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and so on and so forth.

It's still lurking out there, and depending on who you read and what evidence you accept, there may or may not be a revival going on out there now.